I see, and concede your point on quantity of deaths.

But I hold that allowing Non-kinetic-combatants to be dealt with kinetic force will only justify more carpet bombing. And whether or not we hold the title for most civilian deaths, we did also target civilians. I doubt that will be a limiting factor in future engagements either.

Hitler lost the war, because *we* didn't have 'too many scruples'. We outright targeted civilians, both in Germany and Japan.

This is why we won.

What nobody gets yet, is the scope of involvement in a 'cyber attack'. An ISP, or Cable technician can be seen as a combatant that's assisting the hacker by making sure the infrastructure is intact.

In order to destroy the infrastructure with 'kinetic response' means carpet bombing the hell out of the place since the infrastructure of the web is interwoven with everything else we enjoy in life.

If we allow kinetic response to individuals it's only going to get out of hand. Fast.

They ( We ) didn't even try, and we still have ' collateral damage'.

War is total. The side that knows this and practices to an unfair advantage it will be the winner.

The history of any war has been pretty much to kill anybody and everybody regardless of their combative status. The US is more guilty of this than any other country in the carpet bombing free-for-all that was Germany, and the firebombing / Nuking of Japan.

The list goes on and we all know what it is. Why should this topic spark any surprise or outrage, except that now it's *our specific* demographic that could be targeted with zero due process?

Well, it would be more fair to include the carbon footprint of producing the gas. Including the footprint of bus production would be the equivalent of including the footprint to produce the bike.

And I really wouldn't mind that. Drivers should understand at least the basics of pistons, power braking/steering, and momentum, I think.

Some of the most important historical knowledge comes from things that people at the time wouldn't consider important. Things like grocery lists can help determine the diets and agricultural abilities of a culture at the time.

For an example I just made up: In the future, the presence or lack of traffic reports could, alongside legal/budget records, help a historian verify the spread/development of roadways.

Twitter could be a huge source of topics and a wealth of information for historians in the future.

They may conclude that we were all idiots. This too, counts as useful information.

- Gary Keller.

So one has to wonder,

What were these CO2 numbers and their measurable impact during the Age of Coal? When London had a deadly fog? Or During WWII ? When Industry planet wide was not only churning out aircraft, bombs, tanks, and summarily attempting to burn as much fuel getting to point a to point b as quickly as possible to set everyone's crap on fire?

How can our level of much more efficient industry and not destroying everything we get our hands on ever top the levels of "Carbon Emissions" that came from producing factories building all these weapons of destruction and subsequent burning of factories, sinking of ships, And their associated oil spills?

Surely something like that would have left a mark we could record?

Gore created all this crap to profit from it. Here's a clip from the Environment and public works committee on what that was said there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npimo1QK-4k&playnext=1&list=PL50A32D25EEFBC7BB&feature=results_main

Bottom line though, is global warming will continue to exist as long as there's money to be made from it.

Fking Mod this UP.

It's more likely they made a new element, rather than a new type of matter.

Pretty sure there would have been some pretty big explosions and readjustment to physics while matter, and anti-matter scoot aside for the new-comer.

Just sayin. :)

Wish I could edit posts.

THIS >>

http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3261203&cid=42040297

Mod this up.

The Congressional hearing tossed gore and his lore out the window. With plenty of scientific evidence.

The numbers have come out and the damn planet's global average hasn't gone up, nor down. Not in 16 years.

- Dan.
 

I wonder how far they thought they would get flying a small craft a bit larger and slower than a pigeon, over an area that's had people successfully shooting pigeons??

I wish I could have been there to hear that debate:

1. "Hey they are shooting pigeons"
2. "Wow, that's a pretty tough target to hit"
1. "Yea, lets fly something loud, slow and bigger to capture evidence of the shooting".
2. "Show we film it?"
1. "Nah..."

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So this definitively rules out Oracle...

I will add Cast to that list also. Personally I Love VMWare. It has free licences, it's easy for people just starting out without sacrificing more advanced features.

There are some parts of VMware that cost though, but I can live with out them.