Perhaps you could provide a link? Is it this one, in which Linus is dead on? Of course, even if he is wrong that is not proof of arrogance, and makes my point that you don't quite understand what does and does not constitute humility.

"He is smarter than "the masses" but he's not smarter than people like Stroustrup"

I guess you completely miss his point. If Stroustrop was the only person writing C++ code then your point might be valid. Then again, I doubt Bjarne thinks C++ is a good language for OS development when there will be thousands of developers involved either. Can you show me something that suggests he does?

When people claim that something "tries" to maake a point, when it in fact unquestionably proves the point, I am not surprised to find out that they react to logic with the desire to jab someone in the eye.

"um, i think you made my point.

I owe you an apology! Up until now I thought your point was completely different! Now that I realize that your point was that you are a total idiot, I stand corrected!

"I'm stupid because I don't follow the crowd?

No. You are stupid because you just admitted that most people use drugs, and still can't see how it is absurd to claim that choosing to use drugs is the cause of addiction.

" The closest I came to drugs was when my mother made beer chicken."

... and you are stupid for openly admitting that you have no experience with the subject matter, but are willing to hold yourself up as some kind of expert anyway. You are doubly stupid for continuing to paint me as the ignorant one after blatantly and openly exposing your ignorance.

You are stuid because you sit at a table at a restaraunt and read the menu, look around you and see bars and night clubs, probably drinking yourself from time to time in some of those establishments, and think it isn't a social norm to use drugs. In other words, you most likely use drugs yourself. You are lucky you aren't an addict, unless of course you smoke cigarettes, in which case you are an addict.

"But GOOD ON YOU for fighting back against me for making you feel stupid ...

The sad part is, you actually think you could make me feel stupid. I don't use drugs, but I could use a whole shit ton of them, and still be more educated and more intelligent than you. Thanks for the laugh though!

The naivity is strong in both of you, because you both think responsibility or lack therof has something to do with it.

Hey, here's an idea! Have at least some clue what you are talking about, and then get back to us. The entire community of psychologists and psychyatrists will tell you you are wrong, and exactly why, but you can rest at night feeling like you are superior when you have no clue what you are talking about. After all, some other people who have no expertise in, or experience with the matter, have modded you "insightful."

Just one of many things you obviously haven't considered. Most people have done drugs, even if that drug is Alcohol. Only a subset of those people are addicts (including addicts who are addicted to Alcohol, ie. "Alcoholics".) If you think that responsibility or lack thereof is the deciding fator, then you really are a moron.

Your ignorance is exceeded only by your phenomenal stupidity.

"The only good thing is that now that rich white people have drug problems (ie, "real" people), maybe we can muster up some sympathy for other addicted people now?"

Hey, it worked for Rush Limbaugh! Oh wait ...

No you are right. A lot of competent people embrace incompetence. Indeed, we strive or it! We hope to acheive it someday!

The problem stems from your lack of understanding of humility. Often people confuse confidence and knowlege with arrogance. They also confuse the willingness to have and express strong opinions with arrogance. None of these things are arrogance. In other words, if you really are smarter than the mass of men, knowing that is not arrogance. Indeed, we have a classification for people who actually are better at something and know it but pretend they are not. It is called false humility. Being humble means acknowleging ones strengths and weaknesses, as well as not believing that ones strengths make them a more valuable human being.

People who lack humility don't make self deprecating jokes. Ever.

If you investigate why he chose git as the name for his SCM tool, you will start to get an idea of his humility. When he says that others do all the work and he gets all the credit, he is specifically being openly self-deprecating. If you really believe he doesn't do a shit ton of the very important work then you are quite mistaken. After all, who tracked down this very subtle bug, which requires an in depth knowlege of both the kernel and assembly language?

Finally, most of the criticism that comes his way comes from people who don't understand his humor. You can watch his 1995 Google talk on git, where he calls people who use SVN ugly and stupid, to see an example of his humor. If you really think he is arrogant then you are ugly and stupid :-)

You missed the point entirely. GP was claiming that the DSP techniques are "trivial" today. True though that they may be, it ignores the point that they were bleading edge when they were developed.

"People only need to look at your post history to see more often than not you don't know what your talking about, and you're certainly not in any position to admonish others."

Great tactic. There's only one problem. It is not actually possible to look at someone's post history*, which is clearly what you are counting on. I can assure you I am proved correct multiple times on a daily basis. I am also wrong from time to time, naturally. The next time you want to try and prove me wrong, go for it. I look forward to it.

* Looking at the last 25 posts does not equate to looking at ones post history. The "history" will change between now and noon.

For extra laughs, random post I looked at from your comments page. ROTFLMAO

No. I'm saying that outrage is something a competent person would experience, and "What's the big deal; why are you being mean?" is something a, shall we say, less than competent person would think. If you really think he was being "abusive" than you literally have noconcept of truly abusive behavior.

The fact that you don't know what does and does not constitute the kernel is a tribute to your cluelessness. Extra points for not knowing that Linus always openly acknowleges that he doesn't do most of the work but still gets most of the credit. Linus is actually a very humble guy. He just doesn't suffer fools well, which explains your butthurt completely, of course.