Foundation is not a server-side or even an web app framework. Neither is Bootstrap.

Both are layout frameworks for HTML and CSS, with a smattering of JS thrown in to make some nice client-side widgets behave consistently. The original post is asking about languages and application frameworks, not layout systems.

When building pages to send to the client, there's a lot of value in building DOM structures server-side. Having powerful DOM-manipulation tools is an advantage.

Plus, if you run the same language on both ends, you can start to do some really interesting things, like the Meteor framework, where the same functions exist on both sides of the fence, and work the same way.

Think of the power that exist(ed) in using .NET on both the server and IE. It was proprietary, but made huge advancements in rapid development and deployment.

Node.JS and other JS-on-the-server approaches are making this happen in a OS and browser agnostic way.

Until they start developing widgetFactoryFactoryFactoryFactory structures. I'm not exagerating. I've seen a senior developer/architect with a Java app build a PHP system that way, while spending every free moment bitching about how bad PHP is.

Did you forget what you wrote?

because it's easier to look at my wrist (especially while driving) than it is to pull my phone out

In your justification for a watch you emphasized the one scenario where you are in the extremely small minority, to the point of it being almost incredulous. That's why people are focusing in on it.

Your larger point is valid, but got overshadowed by how you phrased your position.

What are you driving that doesn't have a clock already built into the dash somewhere?

Future Job security for those paid to dick around with it.

Everything cycles around.

This tech existed 10-15 years ago. There were "popular" options for IRIX, and common in CAVE setups.

I attended SIGGRAPH in 2000 or so on an exhibitor pass for a company that was producing a 3D window manager to do exactly this.

Neither.

Uber offers 2 services. The one that made them popular was operating as a limo service, but cheap, with fast booking and automated account. All the pluses of limo service, but none of the pains for scheduling, tipping, billing, etc. It's just a modernized towncar service without the legacy overhead.

Uber's second service is UberX, which they introduced to compete with Lyft. Same principal as lift applies, in that it's community ride-sharing with some monetary compensation, but backed by Uber's existing peering infrastructure and billing systems.

It's the second service that's getting them into so much trouble, not the first. The first service follows all the livery laws. The second service has all the uninsured, unlicensed, poor quality drivers. Like Lyft or AirBnB, the peer2peer "Sharing Economy" is fundamentally at odds with the legally-protected and regulated systems currently in place.

You're right that the Tea Party started as a fiscally-conservative, but socially-agnostic movement. It was basically a conservative response to the Occupy Wallstreet movement moving strongly into the liberal end of the spectrum

But the Tea-Party movement quickly turned into a far-right grouping of people against the the Republican leadership because they weren't sufficiently conservative in either social or fiscal matters.

Long story short, the Tea Party now represents a more extreme faction of conservative politics and agenda and the social conservatism they represent scares a wide swath of the general populace that otherwise sympathizes with their fiscal conservatism.

Reread my comment, I was responding to someone who likes M-D-Y because that's how he speaks: "event happened on May fifth, 2001"

I'm completely in agreement that it's stupid in written and datestamp formats and leading to confusion. I always use YYYY-MM-DD to avoid ambiguities.

My point was that the grandparent's argument only holds true for English. In many other common languages, the day comes first: "event happened on fifth of May", so the natural inclination of making written dates match speaking order doesn't apply.

Depends on the language. English lends itself to day followed by month, but the latin-derived languages tend to the opposite.

And Pixar still sells their software, Renderman, which is the leading 3D rendering engine in the movie industry.

Consider the scenario:

Product A has technical features X,Y,Z
Product B has technical features X and Y (not Z).... but it's OSS!

Most decision makers will then ask, what's OSS? And when you get into the weeds of explaining nuanced differences in licensing, they'll quickly decide that the features outweigh the license benefits.

So in other words, put Open Source on the table just like any other software. Don't try to differentiate it as "Open Source", because if you do, decisions makers and stakeholders will wonder why you're putting extra effort into justifying it.

Put it up with a support contract and necessary consultants just like any other piece of software and you'll get approval.

I personally know people who got audited because of contributions to the IRS watch list. And they love to claim that it was a coordinated political attack against the right wing.

It wasn't.

When "non profit" groups form that are closely aligned with or have explicit anti-government agendas (particularly against the IRS, tax code, and the claimed illegality of personal income tax) then it's a no brainer place to look for those skirting the law.

No one was intimidated, their tax reporting was just flagged for the extra-scrutiny pile.