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Comment Re:Icebreakers work from above (Score 1) 62

Conventional ice breaking is done by the weight of the ship, the shape of the bow allows them to slide on top of it and once far enough the ice underneath will break, doing this sideways will be rather nasty for the stomach of the sailors on board.

Providing they have the horsepower it can be done in a relatively smooth way or they need to regularly back up for a new run onto the ice.

The ship in the article is 'only' fit for up to 60 cm. in sideways and 100 cm. of ice in regular mode, not exactly a lot of obstruction when you consider the typical ice sheet north of Russia is between 1.2 and 2.5 m. thick.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-09/russia-building-worlds-largest-nuclear-powered-icebreaker

If you look at the map, the seas where finnish ice breakers roam are not it north russia (itä-meri and perämeri in finnish). As far as i know there is no ship routes trough the northern arctic sea. If there would be, it would cut ship travel times from certain parts of the world by a considerable margin, if they would want to deliver cargo to northern or central europe. Cargo from russia to norway, sweden and finland are mainly transported by railway or truck as there is no sea in between. The most work these breakers do as far as i know are between denmark, finland, russia, estonia, sweden, norway and germany (and some others), not in the arctic sea as your "north russia" would suggest.

Comment Re:Stupid prices (Score 1) 827

What I'd be intrested to see. .instead of how much we all pay is.. how many customers are served Per tower - and how many towers vs area vs coverage.

You maay have the largest plan for sweeden.. but do you roam when you go to the UK? even if not.. all of Western Europe is ~1/3 the size of the US and has 1/3 MORE people

comes out to be:

Western Europe | 514 people/mi^2 United States | 86.5 people/mi^2

Basicly it takes 5 times the area to hold the same numebr of people - asume population was evenly spread (i know it isn't) it should cost 5 times as much to provide for the same number of people..

"Average US plans cost $52.99 per month compared to an average of $10.95 in Finland."

Assume the Finland price for all of western Europe - and we pay 5x the cost for something 5x as expensive to provide..

People don't realize how large the US is.. and that most plans now days there is no roaming from sea to sea.. thats alot of area to provide for..

Does not compute. Finlands population density is 17,5 people/km^2 USA population density is 30,8 people/km^2 so what youre saying is, cause the U.S is twice as densely populated, Finland is 5x cheaper.

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