Comment Re:summary as i understand it: (Score 1) 416
interesting
sounds like it could also lead to groundbreaking new science along the lines of "hey, that's odd..." discoveries in the past where results were wildly outside expectations
interesting
sounds like it could also lead to groundbreaking new science along the lines of "hey, that's odd..." discoveries in the past where results were wildly outside expectations
why are you amazed and dismayed at people reacting to a threat?
why aren't you amazed and dismayed at the loser douchebag making the threat?
who needs to threaten people except a malicious person or a stupid and violent person?
most of it is empty, yes, until one asshole delivers. so you have to take it seriously as no one socially normal or well-intentioned makes violent threats
it is MEANT to cause fear
that's the actual problem genius!
that's how freedom is curtailed: by making you question your safety where you should feel secure
franklin's quote is ridiculously overused because security of course is a necessary thing in this world. it of course can go to far, but what amazes me are internet tough guys who think all prudent responsible reaction to threats is hysterical overreaction. these same internet tough guys will be going "the police heard the threats, why didn't they do anything!" because such losers don't argue form the position of right or wrong or logical coherence, just empty criticism without any intelligence or integrity
do you understand what a threat is?
this must be the social disability speaking here, to not understand what a threat is
are you autistic or do you have asperger's syndrome? honest, serious question
we either have
1. another cold fusion debacle
2. groundbreaking fundamentally new science
do i understand the em drive status quo correctly?
it is
which is why you should use tor if you're trying to hide something
just don't expect to be completely foolproof if you think you would attract the attention of something like the NSA
ideally, throw in another tool/ methodology, and change them up
sniffing one node won't help
sniffing a lot of nodes won't help
sniffing ALL of them (or, in practice, at least the great majority) let's you do timing, target, and content analysis: taking the entire firehose of tor exit node packets, inspecting them, profiling them, and drawing the connections
this is obviously not remotely doable for almost all organizations in the world. except an organization with the reach, resources, and abilities of the NSA. would you really be surprised if the NSA was actively seeking and tracking almost all tor exit nodes in the world? i wonder how many tor nodes the NSA just flat out started in the first place on their own initiative to guarantee a sizable chunk of awareness of what is going in and out
such a difficult effort will get you some useful information. not everything, and not all the time. but you *will* find out some interesting things, some of the time
thus, "kinda sorta figure out who you might be"
yes, exactly
i don't understand how someone couldn't understand your point
all freedoms have natural, logical limitations: where they impinge on someone else's freedoms
there is some weakness of intelligence or social ability going on in a person who can't conceive this
yes, it was originally intended for spies and dissidents in regimes hostile to the free flow of information to share information
that the us government is plugged into it from the ground floor doesn't change that fact
since then
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
In 2004, the Naval Research Laboratory released the code for Tor under a free licence, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) began funding Dingledine and Mathewson to continue its development.[20]
In December 2006, Dingledine, Mathewson and five others founded The Tor Project, a Massachusetts-based 501(c)(3) research-education nonprofit organization responsible for maintaining Tor.[23] The EFF acted as The Tor Project's fiscal sponsor in its early years, and early financial supporters of The Tor Project included the U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau, Internews, Human Rights Watch, the University of Cambridge, Google, and Netherlands-based Stichting.net.[24][25][26][27][28]
ah yes, those great crushers of freedom: the EFF, human rights watch, and now wikileaks
i'm certain the NSA has enough sniffing going on on enough tor exit nodes to kinda sorta figure out who you might be if it was important enough to them
but the point is simply that without tor, that ability to sniff still applies, but even more so. tor isn't bulletproof. it is but one more tool in your toolbox for cloaking and anonymity. combine it with other tools and methods and it is quite useful
tor is simply a good deal, not perfect. what is?
but if you are in moscow or beijing or tehran, and you want to divulge something nasty about those governments, you're certainly free to not use tor, because apparently only washington dc hurts people to keep secrets?
you're not pointing out logical fallacies you're pointing out side topics. stay on topic and make a relevant point, don't look to the existence of other points and say that somewhere in regards to another topic my point doesn't apply. no shit genius, but that's not the topic before you
if you have knowledge of an attack, you tell everyone who is going to do it
if you just tell of an attack coming, you're the one who is going to attack
this is just basic social skills here
that's just ignorance. valuing life means you value vaccines. if you value life, but you don't value vaccines, that's not a separate belief, that's lack of knowledge
everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. no one is entitled to their own facts. if you don't understand that vaccines protect life, you're simply a stupid person
You do not have a right to live free of threats, sorry
i stopped reading there, you're an idiot
as a free man, i absolutely have the right to live free of threats
not that i expect no one will ever threaten me in my life, there's always some fucking douchebag
but that when my life is threatened, i can expect that person to recognize they have transgressed on my freedoms and to apologize or make amends, or be caught and punished by me, someone else, or the authorities, for transgressing against the freedoms of others
freedom must be maintained from all threats, indeed
what most don't understand is that threats to your freedoms do not come only from above, corrupt authority, but also from losers around you who abuse your freedoms out of malice or stupidity
there will always be immoral actions, yes. and? your point?
we're talking about what is right and what is wrong, idiot. not that wrong actions merely exist
well said
What is algebra, exactly? Is it one of those three-cornered things? -- J.M. Barrie