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Comment Re:FFS (Score 1) 149

That is interesting. I always thought that having a bunch of warships docked at harbor like cruise liners was not terribly prudent. Especially given the oil embargo.

I was watching 'In Harms Way' on Netflix the other day, and it struck me how they called WWII 'Roosevelt's war', and John Wayne made the comment that he remembered WWI being referred to as 'Eisenhower's war'. So much is forgotten. "My people perish for lack of knowledge".

Comment Re:FFS (Score 1) 149

They also said we needed a 'new pearl harbor'. Pearl Harbor itself may have been allowed to get us into the war. Hawaii itself was unlawfully annexed, and invaded. President Cleveland called it an 'act of war'. People called us isolationist in WWII, but I believe Major General Smedly Butler's book 'War is a Racket', which sold millions of copies was likely the reason. He was the youngest Major General of the Marine Corps, and received two Congressional Medals of Honor, and the Brevet medal, all for separate actions, but he wouldn't know what he is talking about. He must be a nut job too.

I find it perfectly likely that bunch of sad, lost souls with box cutters could commandeer a jet given the air of conformity regarding hijacking at the time.

I find it egregiously unlikely that they could have also planted the requisite amount of nano-thermite (or conventional charges) required for:
Pyroclastic flow, massive amounts of glowing steel (pouring from the ~80th floor). (Aluminum won't glow yellow, as its emissivity is 1/4 that of iron / steel, Aluminum would only glow white when it finally combusts. Iron alloys at the temperature indicated by yellow are already beyond aluminums boiling point, and carpet fibers would not glow so uniformly, or so brightly). To turn the subbasements into a 'foundry' with 'rivers of molten steel'. To create the WTC meteorite (with manganate, sulfur, etc. which is indicative of thermate, a 'cutter' charge which corrodes steel better than thermite). To drop all three buildings into (nearly) their footprints at (roughly) free-fall speed. Even looking just at that some of the 11 towers of that complex had huge amounts of debris fall on top of them, and were still standing. To create explosions of sufficient force to shatter the support pillars in the subbasements, rend the elevator doors from their frames. Rip a man's skin off of his arms (all 80 stories below the impact), and destroy the marble paneling, and windows of the first floor. There is even a photo of a central support column cut at a 45 degree angle where the frozen steel rivulets running down it didn't even have time to rust yet.

Cut the power for the whole previous weekend, remove the bomb sniffing dogs (etc. etc.)

We needed a Goldstein. Instead we got a SIlverstein. My favorite quote was his on a PBS documentary where he said he had been talking with the fire captain, "and they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse" (regarding Tower #7). o'course later he said he was referring to pulling the people out of the buliding, or some such. Though the building had been on fire for multiple hours, and was already evacuated apparently didn't matter.

All the 'conspiracy' aside the towers fell after jets hit them, so we replace it with a single tower made of glass, looking like a giant dagger? What a massive amount of idiocy. You would think they would want a more impact resistant structure, not less.

The pentagon looked consistent with a jet impact, pilots saying it couldn't swing around that fast, I can't comment on. It is suspicious that they left out the most interesting frames, and that the jet hit an area that was under construction, and so less populous than it should have been.

My personal favorite item of all of the insanity was the gent on the PA flight that calls his mom. Identifies himself by his full name, then asks her if she believes its him. Then says there is a hi-jacking, then asks her if she believes him. I dunno, maybe they were estranged, and he lied alot, but I laugh every time I think about it. "You do believe me, don't you mom?" Nooo, it must be April-fucking-fools! I was surprised he called her 'mom', and didn't identify her by her SSN, or full name at least.

On a different note; have you ever noticed how anytime we have 'war on something' we generally lose terribly at it? War on:
Education
Poverty
Drugs
Terror


Are we winning any of these, or are they perhaps, just an on-going racket?

I am still waiting for them to officially announce the war on liberty, but they seem to be winning that one...

Comment Re:Sadly I already answered in this topic (Score 1) 149

To dissent, and express an opinion? Or to think for himself? We don't stand for that crap in this country! This is the East India Trading Company! AHEM, the U S of A! Sorry, I got my flags mixed up.

But if you still don't believe me, then let me throw some numbers at you! Five! Twenty three! Eight hundred six!

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