Damn it! I live in Los Angeles, I wasn't aware of this disaster zone. Thanks!

Viol8, hmm, you seem so much more mature than I am, I like the nick it screams maturity and civility. Like your non-arguments do. How about you attempt to field an argument yourself? I'm feeling that our conversation has grown increasingly one-sided not to mention hostile. I might suggest places to look for your violin but won't as that might encourage some of your less savory addictions.

yup

"foe"

The really annoying thing about AC's is that you can't "enemy" them.

The irony between your post and your sig is amazing. Are you an artist of irony or what this a chance event?

News flash! Most grown adults don't know the "square root of fuck all", I myself imagine that the "square root of fuck all" is masturbation or it could be some other thing but I'd not bet my life on it as the problem seems poorly defined. "Get a grip" see my answer to above ;-). Fox "News" has been number one for 13 straight years, need I say more? I would rather people who still enjoy watching the PowerRangers vote than the blank minded parrots who watch Fox "News".

As for why felons don't get the vote, that is not something that was handed down from above. It was a choice made by some long dead white men who either owned slaves or thought they should still be able to own slaves. Yeah, I am saying it is a racist, or classist, (which is close enough to the same thing) decree. I didn't vote on them not getting to vote and I know you didn't either. You think it is the natural order of things because it is the way it is, that's how our collective brains work. Don't forget that not very long ago it seemed natural for blacks to be slaves and denied all the rights white humans possessed. Seems abhorrent to us now but at one point it seemed right as rain to most educated white people. I am going into all of this just to note how things that seem natural only seem so because that is how they are.

A good reason why they should vote? Because they are humans and citizens.

Get a grip, yo!

I understand, brain development comes at certain ages etc. However, look at where only allowing those with "mature" brains vote has gotten us. Do you see a lot of evidence of good judgment in our voting patterns? Sarah Palin still has a credible shot at being president some day for crying out loud! Is there any evidence that our current system is doing fantastically? We are an extremely young country headed down a very bad path, and need to do something to turn this ship of state around. I think that letting those with a stronger stake in the future have a voice in it can only be a good thing. Not letting them vote is nothing more than institutionalized ageism. Extending my argument, old people shouldn't be allowed to vote on items that would not be implemented until after their expected date of death as they no longer have any skin in the game ;-).

Why shouldn't felons get to vote either? Who better them has insight into how our current criminal justice system is or isn't fair. Are they no longer human just because they have been put in prison?

I'm 45, actually. MS in mechanical engineering from a top ranked university. Generally I have a philosophical bent and for sure a rebellious streak. I also possess (am possessed by?) a strong sense of social justice due to the way I grew up and the economic class of which I was a part growing up. But thanks for the joke, that was funny.

I am of the opinion that the voting age should be lowered, to maybe around 12 or 13. Also any politicians that fund a war or aggressive action or vote for one need to be assigned a platoon and it needs to be sent to the front line with them leading it (this includes the Prez). People in prison should also be allowed to vote in all elections where they are being stored and where they came from. I think that would start to even out some of the stupidity perpetrated on the masses by the old and the privileged.

I am not kidding. There are reasons for why I think this should be the case but I don't really want to take the time to spell them out right now.

lol

Or maybe they were somewhat averse to picking up a transvestite? (Assuming you are male because you are on /.)

Statistics don't bear your anecdotal statement out:
http://usa.streetsblog.org/201...

Bummer, so he has to cash out his farm for a quick megabuck and then pay off his ticket. He can then turn around and buy the next farm over for the $100K that it's really worth. I think this farmer argument is a red herring and designed to draw attention away from more important and relevant discussion. Good job with throwing the squirrel in there YrWrstNtmr!

mouth-to-mouth?
With tongue? With good-looking females? Can I work there?