"Now, I doubt that death threats against pro-gun actors and celebrities are so numerous (if there were a way to measure it). Did Selvester, Tom Selleck, Ah-nold, Kurt Russel, Ted Nugent, Heston, ever get so much hate mail? Probably not--but most of them are much more passive in their beliefs than the two above counter examples."

Yup... That's Ted Nugent... A really passive, quiet sort of fellow.

"Maybe, but then how do you account for the differences in places with the gun laws - for instance, France has over 400% the number of murders as Saudi Arabia, yet just under 50% less than the US? That tells me there is more to those numbers than meets the eye.

Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics..."

Obviously the real issue behind all the violence was women's suffrage!

"In the real world, it seems your opinions do not correlate with reality - for example New York City has strict laws against gun use, and has a very low crime per capita rate compared to other US cities like LA where carrying guns is more. There is no positive correlation between low crime and carrying guns, and there may even be a negative correlation. See table of cities half way down this page."

Seriously? Did you just claim that carrying a gun in LA is easier than New York? LA, New York, and Chicago are all in states with extremely restrictive gun laws and those are the top three cities on that list on Wikipedia....

Of course the 4th highest is Houston, Texas so maybe the issue isn't gun laws at all... hmmm?