MIND. BLOWN.

This. Exactly this. Everytime I hear someone apologize for Microsoft, I can't help but stare at them blankly. It's like Dumbledore and Harry Potter (this is news for NERDS still, right?) .. are you sure you ever really knew them at all?

Exactly this.

Honestly, Microsoft... why not just build some really nice Android apps and call it a day? NIH is a sickness.

And you got better. You're clearly uninformed, and I can't change fanboyism.

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"hardware doesn't support ipv6" - Sure, and it's all being steadily replaced
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It's *not available* in some cases, certainly fixed wireless equipment. I made that point twice, FFS.

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big ISPs don't seem to have any trouble with it
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Actually, they do. Many large ISPs don't support IPv6 or are in the stages of moving over parts of their network right now. They're having huge issues. They're just not sharing them with YOU. For an example, Bell Canada still has no IPv6 support on their network, even at the business-classed fiber/ethernet level.

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You mean like Aruba [arubanetworks.com] and Cisco [cisco.com]?
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Those are not ISP-level equipment. Those are WiFi. Again, you fail at comprehension.

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when the support guys realized that widespread v6 support would essentially eliminate all their "how do I forward a port" support calls, I bet they had to change their pants
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Wrong. Now they have people calling them up asking how they get static IPs on their Samsung TV. And why their home security system doesn't seem to be working when it supports only IPv4. They want more outbound bandwidth for their fleet of home cameras and an IP for each of them, and they want it for free, including technical support when something goes wrong. IPv6 means you go from people trying to force you to support their shitty, poorly configured wireless network at home to trying to force you to support 50 devices that they want available on the Internet at all times with their own IP addresses. You clearly don't think outside your little consumer box AT ALL.

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Maybe you get a jolly from shitting on v6. That's fine, go nuts. We'll all be over here using it happily, spinning up v6-only services in a few years, and leaving you in the dust.
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Could you be any more fanboy butthurt?

Again, not paying attention: in the wireless industry THERE IS NONE WITH IPv6.

Wireless equipment (not Linksys, ffs) is almost universally IPv4 only - right now.

Yep. You're so smart. So smart that you ran right over "hardware doesn't support ipv6", "virtually all wireless network hardware sold today" and "cost the ISPs time and money and aggravation to support" and went straight to "bullshit."

Have a cookie. Clearly you've got intelligent discourse down pat.

Supporting IPv6 is a giant, ugly, expensive, network-rocking hairball for ISPs that virtually no amount of throat-clearing will dislodge. It's ugly to work with in many ways, people make demands of it that cost the ISPs time and money and aggravation to support. It requires forklift upgrades of virtually all the really expensive hardware that ISPs have in their data centers and elsewhere. Much hardware currently in use still doesn't support IPv6 (think virtually all wireless network hardware sold today) and everything needs to if you're going to make a smooth conversion - which is impossible anyway.

IPv6 from an ISP standpoint is the boogey man.

At the time, it did not have legal authority. The subject of whether it's legal so far is two against and one for. I'm fairly certain that over time, it will be judged to be unconstitutional.

This. All of it.

Fuckings to those of you who think that he's done a bad thing. Either everyone follows the law, including the government, or it's invalid. The governments haven't been following the law.

> I'm a .NET developer so I'm a Fanboy because nothing else comes close for enterprise development.

Wow. That's a real head-shaker.

ZFS has been dangerous for me on many occassions. FYI

Also that brings to mind the biggest problem with Window$.

VIRUSES, MALWARE and TROJANS hiding in a .exe file which requires Administrator access to install.

Uhm...................... why is it bad? You could get nightingale directly from your dist, or a PPA.

I agree there should be an easy way to add PPA's, though.