Sorry Spartan you have lost your EDGE! arff arff arrf ;-)

Has nothing to do with windows and has nothing to do with being special. Windows has become a religion so has the belief that it takes specialists to service a computer operating system. And that is the whole point the techs removing virus thing is the biggest scam of all, C cleaner, My Clean PC and all the other garbage that goes on with the Windows ecosystem is a charade. A very lucrative charade but a scam non the less. There is absolutely no reason why Windows 10 cannot easily be made to work well on older equipment. If the Linux kernel along with GNU software can run safely on old gear like my IBM t42 that I am posting this from then the only reason why a scaled down re-release of windows, lets call it windows SPARTAN could not be created for sale by Microsoft for older gear instead of the current methodology.

Not everyone is suckered in by the flash and sparkle smoke and mirrors and scare tactics used by the Windows device snake oil industry!

This is freakin' hilarious. With the reasoning you are using obviously the only thing keeping Microsoft afloat is the pc cleaning business. Therefore combating the evil digital bits is the whole basis for the industry which would make sense because the user can be fleeced every imagined upgrade cycle. There must be really good money in creating annoyances for digital distribution. Essentially what you are saying it is only the black hats that are keeping Microsoft in business.

I USE MY CLEAN PC but it is my own creation and comes on a usb stick that will run good ol' DD cleaner. She is faithful and always works here is her address; dd if=/dev/* of=/dev/sda

I have never had any problems with windows trojans or virus software. But I can see how it keeps the Charlestons of the industry in business!

Get yourself a wheel with the complimentary colours and pick the drab shades in compliments to the highlighted edges. What happens is the eye does not strain to compensate for the differentiation of the compliments. Instead your eye focuses on the field faster and there is a less jarring effect. This is essentially design eye pablem technique instead of jarring candy effects and is how designers manage to keep their interior designs from annoying prospective customers with jarring visuals.

That was the problem with the red jabbing designs of Win8. When you snap back to the start screen tiles your brain just goes "WTF are you doing?" with this sudden flash of a square box full of sudden choices that I must now consider. It jarred the shit out of users and slowed them down to say the least. At least Windows ten has changed that pile of bullshit. It is actually quite easy to use without having to be so called intuitive by poking you in the eye with the choices you have to make. Cortana search works to an extent for those who do not have a clue. Voice command makes the OS usable for the visually impaired but is not an essential part of the GUI. They are listening to users this time around and are creating an OS that is user friendly enough with all the essential stuff still there for the user that knows how to do things like use and create active directories, format remote volumes, manage data connections etc.

Microsoft is late to the party listening to the core user base but it does seem as if a dose of laxative was give to the stagnant design teams and there was a major shake up in the BSOD Microsmerf yes man culture that prevented innovation at Microsoft during the Ballmer era.

As it stands how and what you chose to remove or the start is completely up to you. You can pin applications that you use frequently and leave the ones that you don't in the "all programs" choice. Start in 10 is a huge improvement over the layout of any previous version of windows. You can remove excess baggage from the task bar on demand as well and this improves startup performance.

All of the craps that require a tile that talks to the internet like; news, sports, weather, store, onedrive can easily be removed from the start. So can edge and IE 11 is actually quite good for a change and you can still set it up old school. Edge with was called Spartan for some stupid reason is decent with HTML5 and you can ditch flashplayer and use the net just fine the same as Chrome or Firefox.

As far as hardware compatibility goes well My old semi pro but really great M-audio 24/96 delta soundcard is still supported by a windows 7 64 bit driver from Avid that works fine even though it is unscircum.... (OOPS) unsigned by Microsoft.

On a long in the tooth government discard 2009-10 Lenovo core two duo 8400 with intel onboard graphics and a display port out Windows 10 ten boots from a spinning Sata2 7200rpm HDD to full user access without indexing the hell out of the drive after I login and does on average in 30 seconds from cold boot. People can dis Microsoft for many things but they are wrong if they think this is not a version of Windows that is decent, they have actually been listening this time. Somewhat.

Very possible considering the fact that the entire Canadian government web infrastructure and most of the Provincial ones have all become dedicated Microsoft centric infrastructures. The same thing goes for all the crown Corps like the CBC and most universities so the acquisition and dismemberment of BlackBerry at the hands of Microsoft would come as no surprise at all.

It has been the goal of Microsoft to dominate all digital communications in the western world and as far as possible elsewhere. The acquisition, absorption and decimation of all who have stood in the way is almost complete. Acquiring and then dismantling BB makes perfect sense then making certain that there is no competition in Canada other than Google for corporate mail and communications is the icing on the cake for Redmond. Their tactics of using their OS domination position to corner the information market are obvious and very disturbing. ALL HAIL the new and open MICROSOFT! Same as the old.

The statues of the fallen ( and some soon to die as well)

Blackberry

Corel (Word Perfect)

IBM AIX, Lotus software etc and any attempt they made to network businesses with software other than windows based infrastructure

Nokia

HP Unix

good ol' BSD based Hot Mail

Netscape

And a huge number of others who have tried to compete against Microsoft in the digital information technology market. The Scroogle campaign has not to date done much to Bing the Google thing but it is obvious that the campaign to undermine, defame and absorb them is still alive and screwing over the market place! Milo Minderbinder has nothing on Microsoft!

Even if Snowden had never blown the whistle on how the culture of secrecy can run amok and abuse privacy, eventually the NSA would have been caught out because of the Hubris a culture of closed doors creates. This latest revelation about how they tried to do man in the middle attacks on android and IOS devices only goes to prove the fact that the more closed the source is the more vulnerable it is to abuse in the long term. The first post to this thread is woefully wrong and was evidently posted by a zombie in his parents basement trying to score points with his friends.

That being said culturally we are being morally bankrupted more by a culture of fear and secrecy than hackers. Gag orders only work to cause public distrust in the long run and so does a lack of transparency.

The vulnerabilities in these devices will not cause problems long term because their code is transparent the same thing cannot be said about closed source devices. Fortunately Microsoft is transparent and does appreciate users telling them about security flaws otherwise I would never use a Windows device again. Naturally the flaws that exist are harder to fix but at least they do try to make their products and OSes bullet proof from the NSA. Touch wood.

We had to get up and change the channel when I was a teenager. But my best friend didn't they could afford a new-fangled clicker tv. I swear this is true, one day I smoked up, got creative and learned to imitate the clicker sound perfectly and change the channel. I got so good at it when we did the keep up with the Jones' routine that I drove my parents nuts to the point of distraction by throwing the sound and changing the channel on the Electrohome or turning it on or off but that one was really tricky to do. I can see that in the future there are more interesting challenges ahead for those of use who love to mess with the works just for fun.

Thank you Google! I will go out and practice my dog whistle techniques. Like some I am not from this planet I think some of us were put here just for the purpose of shit and giggles.

Certainly not, but perhaps low adoption rate of BSD and Linux on the desktop indicates that the average computer user does not have the attention span necessary to use real operating systems. Thus you have finger painting kindergarten software and OSes like Win8, Android and IOS dominating a market of consumers with lower attention spans than Goldfish. Most of whom could be out classed running Linux or BSD by a trained Rhesus Macaque or properly trained PE teacher for that matter!

Your attention span has been altered by your precious bodily fluids being polluted by the Commies. Here is proof of the conspiracy! remember to deny your essence to women, then your attention span will return to normal. Naturally if you are using computer to stimulate your senses all bets are off. As far as Ritalin is concerned it can easily be replaced by an XBOX in every living room a cell phone in every pocket and thousands of true believers walking down the street playing this

There is no mediacenter but, don't worry everything revolves around a trumped up XBOX in_your_face front end. Fortunately the default software that is pinned to the new start menu is optional. If they make it so that the DRM centric front end is always pinned to the start then windows would go for a royal shit and they know it.

Fortunately it is still possible to install VLC, essentially the only media software that makes Windows worth using.

People who think that using freeware is dangerous will have to purchase codecs for windows to play any content other than networked stuff though the XBOX connection gui. Of course Microsoft will slyly intimate that it is dangerous to use anything other than software from the Windows Store.

I am certain that the slavering masses of brain dead dedicated Microsoft fanatics will eat this new bull shit up as usual. Windows is becoming a farce, they are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of their customers again by putting choices in front of them that lead them to think that they need an XBOX and Microsoft account to play media files. I think it will bite them in the ass this time, it is a shame watching a company treat their customers as sheep. They are getting as bad as Apple in this regard. Losing Ballmer has not changed anything and it is foolish to think that there is going to be a cultural shift at Microsoft, otherwise there would be full support for codecs and there would also be standard USB audio 2 device support instead of a patch work of a gazillion drivers as there is now.

Here is hoping that some up and coming company eats their lunch because of their narrow focus on dominating the industry and treating customers as if they are stupid.

Lost my mod points or you would get em. Another problem is that there is a huge number of scanners running out there looking for known back doors. Here is my log trace for the group that seems to be knocking on my routers, interesting how they use stealth attack vectors but do leave the trace if you know where to look ;-> Looks like they are mostly from Russia with love LOL Notice my whois is not as root. The router logs on the dos attacks tell the tale and are persistent but timed every few weeks. This is the latest but it tracks to russia the same as the other ones that seem to be knocking on my router thinking there is a server behind it.

~$ whois -B 185.94.111.1

inetnum:        185.94.108.0 - 185.94.111.255
netname:        RU-QRATOR-20150331
descr:          HLL LLC
country:        RU
org:            ORG-LA267-RIPE
admin-c:        LA27-RIPE
tech-c:         AA8879-RIPE
status:         ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:      MNT-QRATOR
mnt-routes:     MNT-QRATOR
changed:        hostmaster@ripe.net 20150331
source:         RIPE

organisation:   ORG-LA267-RIPE
org-name:       HLL LLC
org-type:       LIR
address:        5 Magistralnaya, 8A
address:        123007
address:        Moscow
address:        RUSSIAN FEDERATION
phone:          +78003333522
e-mail:         mail@qrator.net
abuse-c:        AR16870-RIPE
mnt-ref:        RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-ref:        MNT-QRATOR
mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
changed:        bitbucket@ripe.net 20150330
source:         RIPE

person:         Alexander Asimov
address:        5-ya Magistralnaya, 8a
address:        119034 Moscow
address:        Russian Federation
notify:         aa@highloadlab.com
e-mail:         aa@highloadlab.com
mnt-by:         MNT-QRATOR
phone:          +7-499-241-81-92
nic-hdl:        AA8879-RIPE
changed:        aa@highloadlab.com 20100623
source:         RIPE

person:         Lyamin Alex
address:        5-ya Magistralnaya, 8a
address:        119034 Moscow
address:        Russian Federation
phone:          +7-499-241-8192
e-mail:         flx@msu.ru
nic-hdl:        LA27-RIPE
notify:         flx@msu.ru
changed:        ada@comstar.ru 19961219
changed:        flx@msu.ru 20000529
mnt-by:         MNT-QRATOR
source:         RIPE

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Correct if they pull it off but the fly in the ointment is the crappy workstation os situation because of legacy ActiveX based software being used on the servers. The problems all started with Danny Drop Tables and Ms Access SQL IE6 and Excel data base hooks into web pages. For instance this abomination that is a legacy of the province of British Columbia where they sell PCs dirt cheap and still put garbage ware with web dlls on their servers. IF it wasn't for governments like BC and other places where they actively lobby and scmooze their way into the hog trough of public money, Microsoft would be in a world of hurt!

Yes you are correct it will be up to the user to chose as it is with all google services. The way the google search engine works I can turn on anon browsing in both FF and Chrome and google does not give a shit sideways it still does the same job SO I CALL BULLSHIT. Slashdot is starting to become a haven for Microsoft shills. GMAIL does not plaster my ass with adds or track the shit out of me and all this bullshit that has been spread by the SCROOGLE crowd here and elsewhere will eventually come to light when Google gets mad and strikes back by telling consumers the truth about the FUD campaign that Microsoft launched, financed, lobbied in Government and in general started a culture of MUD SLINGING bullshit because they really want to gain traction in web services and advertising revenue.

I am running ten tech preview and even the so called PRO is completely web centric and essentially a PITA to run for purposes like a DAW or workstation. The OS is a bloated mess of integrated web apps that constantly get in the way of everything you try to do with the system and don't work worth shit unless you have connection to the web. Every PC service interface is a royal pain in the ass. BUT I will give them this you can still access control panel but you have to make it work old school to do anything useful and the system configuration utilities are buried so deep that it makes VISTA LOOK GOOD! It can be customized but you have to go at it with a sledge hammer to make into a real operating system. And do follow the links that I posted as that tells the real tale and if it wasn't for Android revenues Microsoft would not even be in the cell phone business because to tell the truth the real dead boat anchor with baggage that they are trying to integrate into the Windows experience is their cell phones. This is what is really going on they are turning into a bitter second class software company and soon they will become the IBM of digital communication their days are numbered because of their loss of focus and the way they are screwing over their business customers by making them buy new work station PCs instead of releasing a decent scaled down work station OS that will run on less resources.
Here in Canada OUR TAX dollars subsidize Microsoft because we buy all new workstations for all government offices and then auction off PCs without the HDDs every 4-5 years. On the flip side places like the Bank of Nova Scotia is still runny XP work stations and refuses to budge because of the bullshit coming out of Redmond. The infected PC virus scam nonsense is disgusting and one of the biggest frauds ever foisted upon the public. There is absolutely no reason to ditch good hardware every OS release cycle and this is going to bite Microsoft in the ass big time this time around! Unless they release a work station OS that can run on 5-10 year old hardware.

Someone is going to start to muscle in on enterprise and it will serve the idiots and shills of the Ballmer era right they will get what they deserve, OUTSOURCING
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You think Google wants your brains? You just wait until Win 10 launches and practically insists on MSN and THE CLOUD, Xbox for media integration, your mic as a default on device with cortana and sparton, ten tentacles hooked into your nuts and brains for every web service that defaults to bing, the news according to Microsoft, search according to Microsoft, the real web browser relegated to "Windows Accessories". Mark my words if you think Google is invasive with trying to control every aspect of your data and digital communications just wait the real beast is about to be released on the unsuspecting masses of slavering digital consumers!