We see how that worked out for Sauron, right!?!?!

I don't have a cellphone you insensitive clod!

... on it's security-hole-riddled history, javascript in the browser (XSS) is also a favorite attack vector. But at least it is a little less black-boxish.

For security sake, maybe we should just go back to punch cards!?!?!?

>> Once you pass a certain point, people become far more vulnerable than technology, so improving the technology won't help security.

BINGO!!

>> However, even if the hackers got the algorithms for how that works it still wouldn't help them because the algorithm again uses a set of private data (keys) for each installation. The hackers would have to get that data along with the algorithm they presumably have now.

True enough ... but people do dumb/lazy/forgetful things with key files all the time. They have to traverse it from one server to another etc. and leave a copy on a desktop, file share or the like (they intended to delete it when they were done, but some other thing came up and got their attention). Maybe they use a copy of production in a lower-security environment (test/dev). Happens all the time.

**You misinformed, willfully ignorant and delusional Fanboi's are the reason people on / . hate Macs**

Now I remember why I love to read /. ... the kind, well-spoken base of users that provide for such stimulating conversation.

PS - I run Ubuntu at home.

1) If you are a security researcher, do you want to win/pwn the MacBook Air or some random brand Winders notebook? To me, the Mac is the bigger/more fun target in an event like this.

2) From TFA: *He said the creation of a reliable exploit was “much more difficult” than finding the vulnerability.'*
Yes, Macs are not safe, but the crack was also not trivial. Something tells me they didn't come up with it on the spot.

3) From TFA: *Bekrar said VUPEN plans to hit Internet Explorer 8 on 64-bit Windows 7 (SP1) later in the contest.*
Well, we can see where they focused first.

4) 'Mac goes down first' is a much cooler headline than 'Sec. team puts all their effort into cracking Mac first, Will try Windows next'

Yes, there are such stories in the Bible. What level of detail do they rise to? I haven't read the stories referred to in TFA (and don't want to), but my guess is they are a little more detailed than the instances referred to in the Bible ... and yes, that does make a difference for many people. Also, what light those acts are painted in is relevant.

Keep in mind that the Bible *recounts what happened* and what happened to those people subsequently... with the intent that we learn correct behavior for ourselves as a result. It is a history and not fiction. For someone to write fiction about such acts, they have to dwell on them a bit in their mind and dream it all up to be able to write it down ... is that a pleasant/ good thing? Not IMHO.

Granted, some will posit that the Bible is fictional ... not my conviction.

Censorship seems to have become a bad word. Censorship can be good or bad. We use Netflix parental controls to 'censor' what our children might be exposed to ... intentionally or inadvertently. I (amongst others), see that as sound parenting practice, others may not. You could argue whether or not amazon removing a product is even 'censorship'. To some it is good, to some it is bad. If your tax money were running Amazon, then you might have a real complaint. As it is, vote with your feet and/or your money.

If you really have the need for books about incest and pedophilia, go buy them from whomever sells them. If you want Amazon ( or Borders or your library or whomever) to carry them, request it from them. I don't, so I'm fine with this [apparently evil] form of censorship.

Maybe their method for review/censor is over-simplistic or just plain inconsistent. But their choice of what they sell is just that ... their choice. As is your choice yours on where and what to buy.

• Kicking in Doors in * Province
• Taking [mortar | small arms | heavy artillery] fire
• In a sandstorm
• In a foxhole

... and you know if provided the opportunity, many would actually be updating their FB status from wherever

Hire Cowboy Neal as a body guard

It Leared from the internet folks ... of course it *leared*.

... in a split decision, vi wins. Oh wait ... wrong holy war!