For a moment I read that as "does not meant that the 50% of the population who share his gender.." and thought you were commenting about the absurdity of the broad-based accusations that men in general are the problem.

Then I re-read and realized you were just being disingenuous.

How about not inventing an entire 45 minute scenario with the Dwarves in the mountain running from Smaug?

As I recall the extent of what happened in the mountain was Bilbo was a sneaky thief, and the dragon flew out to torch the town. How exactly was the story enriched by the hairbrained scheme to drown the dragon in gold?

And if the server doesnt have xorg, the discussion is moot. For those that do however, it might as well also have NetworkManager as it makes life simpler.

Obviously I use ssh for most linux connections, but there are times where there is a GUI.

I missed the part where it is illegal for a state actor to lie when not under oath.

ifconfig doesnt persist changes. Thats also not made obvious to the unfamiliar.

Gotchas like that are why you need NetworkManager.

Is there anything Unix about Gnome? How exactly is this a useful criticism?

Theres also nothing Unix about HTML, or CSS; maybe you're on the wrong website, Geocites is that way.

At least in CentOS and RHEL 7, NetworkManager does VLANs and Bonding and bridges in about 2 clicks. Add interface, choose bonding | VLAN | bridge, and go.

Set up your VLAN interfaces, bridge them. Not seeing the issue.

90% of the other functionality isnt relevant 90% of the time. The point of a GUI is to offer the most common options, and from my usage of NM, it does that admirably.

What about a network engineer who has better things to do than spend more time researching the syntax for setting up tagging on a single node than it took to set up the switch infrastructure?

As someone who is deeply familiar with networking but only vaguely familiar with Linux's arcane ways of configuring its network-- which apparently change drastically depending on such things as:
  * whether you want it to be per-session (ifconfig)
  * or persistent (/etc/DependsOnYourDistro/someFiles)
  * whether it should actually persist with the interface rather than how the kernel decides to allocate /devs to the actual interface
and so on-- I am quite happy to see NetworkManager. THere is no reason that setting up a bonded or tagged interface should be more complicated than saying it verbally, or why I should have to fall back to CLI in order to do that.

Heres a fun tip: not everyone wants to be a full-time Linux admin devoted to a particular breed of distro. Some of us have a job in supporting a very wide array of systems, and the less arcane black magic we need to learn for each individual system the better. Historically Linux's networking has been AWFUL, as just a few years ago it was considered normal for a box's IP-to-interface mapping change on reboot because apparently its logical that the OS randomly assign interface IDs to physical interfaces, and there were roughly a hundred different methods and places to configure all of the various networking pieces (resolvers, mac addresses, firewall, bonding, vlans, device/interface mapping).

It boggles my mind that there are people who think that complexity for complexity's sake is a good thing. CLI is wonderful for batch operations that you do every day. GUI is wonderful for things you will do once a month, and dont want to use mental bandwidth for remembering a command.

There are valid circumstances to fire a gun there. AFAIK there are no valid circumstances for firing a normal pistol in an airborne airplane.

Imagine having to wait while the guy attempts to jimmy it into an overhead compartment, I cant imagine it'd fit well.

Why arent you talking to your lawyer here, and why are you assuming the cop has information on how the sentencing goes?

The cop isnt your legal counsel. Dont treat him as such.

Yea, thats not how it works. There is no situation where it would be legal for a cop to lie, but illegal for a civilian to lie.

They arent under oath, by what logic would you make that statement?

Cops arent lawyers, and they arent your lawyer, so I hope you arent expecting valid legal advice from them, and I certainly hope you arent talking to them without valid legal advice.

The shipping container is different in that it can be hooked up to a truck and driven off.

Is anyone confused by the fact that cops can lie in the course of their work? Because thats something everyone should be crystal clear on: they can.

Or maybe people dont understand that things you share with a cop, even "off the record", can be on the record. That, too, is a myth that should be dispelled.