Considering how much corporate welfare the government hands out, and the trajectory that said corporate welfare is taking, we are not far from the individual income tax being the sole fiscal source for the federal budget.

What does that matter in this case? I'm only comparing where money comes from to where it goes - geographically. Hell if Texas would finally just secede from the union the federal budget would get a whole lot better right away as they take a lot more money than they contribute (although then the new US would have a different immigration problem to deal with as people would be leaving Texas to come to a first-world country).

What does the wealth of congress-critters have to do with what I said? Yeah, they're all for sale, we've known that for a long time - that is how we end up with all these shitty pro-corporate laws because the people can't pool up enough money to outbid the large corporations.

No, that argument is completely tangential. Money going to a state is not inherently welfare nor is it inherently based on the wealth of the people who live there. I'm pointing out if you compare the money the state contributes to the federal budget (by way of individual income tax) to the money they get back (by way of projects their congress-critters push through), you'll find those ratios are higher in the south.

Almost as hilarious as the fact that the leader who wants to bring about the greatest (in scope) fascist revolution in this country is pretending to do it in the name of "liberty".

I am using that because his followers make a huge deal about the number of babies he has delivered. However considering how long he was a practicing Ob/Gyn, that number is actually not particularly impressive - particularly if he was the main or only practicing Ob for a moderately populated area.

From what I have seen, so far all he has been saying is that we're doing it wrong. I haven't seen anything from him about how to do it right. Naturally, his followers jump all over it as gospel.

The Ebola czar is supposed to help manage the response. Just as the Surgeon General does not perform surgeries while a member of the cabinet, the Ebola czar is just a manager.

My point is that there are a lot of people - including one particular cult leader / politician / retired physician - telling us that we're doing it wrong. I have not seen any of these people do anything other than bitch and moan about it being done wrong; I most certainly have not seen them propose anything other than what we are doing.

Hell any proposal for the government to do anything would be automatically rejected as "the wrong thing" by Ron Paul as he is against all forms of government spending, regardless of how many lives are at stake (excluding, of course, his own).

I keep seeing bits on google news about Ron Paul telling us how everything we are doing is wrong in this matter. I'm sure the world's most average Ob/Gyn - and most successful living American cult leader - is also a highly qualified expert on Ebola.

And yes, I know I will be moderated straight down to hell for this one.

Milwaukee County extends well outside the borders of the city of Milwaukee. Notice he was not the mayor of Milwaukee; I have not heard of him ever making an attempt to run for that post. When one takes in the full county you get enough conservatives from the wealthy suburbs for a hard-core conservative such as Walker to win an election based on whipping the more economically fortunate voters into a frenzy.

That is quite an IF statement there. We already know that on the national level it does not parse out the way you want it to; the states with the highest ratio of (money back from the federal government) : (money paid to federal government in taxes) are all in the south where people are bitching that the federal government is holding them down.

Of course we all know that conservative capitalism depends on keeping some economic classes down as allowing everyone to prosper is bad for business. Setting up a deliberately crippling tax system to prevent people from climbing the socio-economic ladder is one way to do that. Making sure that quality education is only available to certain voting classes is another (that goes hand-in-hand with the previous).

Repetition? I haven't seen you yet commit once to actually reading the text in its entirety. It is hard to repeat something you haven't yet said. I'm used to you moving the goal posts at will, which is why I am asking for a direct commitment from you beforehand to actually reading the full text.

I will read it with you, I will not read it for you. You haven't read it yet, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just might yet read it. If going through it word-for-word will make a difference I will do that, but I will not accept your "skimming" of it.

Either commit to reading it in its entirety, or just stop talking about it and stop pretending to be knowledgeable on it.

Just state it by name once is all. Acknowledge that the city - even though it rejected him mightily - exists. His snub of Milwaukee would be like President Lawnchair giving the state of the union and not mentioning any state south of the Mason-Dixon line. You know we would be talking secession (if not worse) if that happened.

Being as Walker just restructured the tax system to squeeze even more money out of the people who live in Milwaukee, he could at least be gracious enough to thank them for their contributions, even if he hates them deeply for not voting for him or supporting any of his ambitions.

Oh, I see. Your strange spin on collective bargaining has caused you to confuse it for unconquerable job security.

Funny, I can think of a certain embodiment of randian conservative thought who is driving a company straight into the shitter with no consequences and no chance of ever losing his job (or golden parachute).

Well, when a law is passed specifically to disband some unions, make it hard to form new ones, and reduce what few powers many existing ones still have, it is a pretty good step towards homicide (or union-cide, if you will).

No. They are sensible only for people who are above the median income. Everyone else was hurt by them, though some haven't realized it just yet.

Really? The largest police forces in our country are unionized, as are the largest fire departments. I haven't seen any of them mutiny. They generally just want some decent protection and realize they can do better bargaining together than against each other.

Wage suppression is not the answer. Wage suppression doesn't help anyone but those at the very top. Right-to-work laws have not produced better or more affordable products when used in manufacturing, it produces only slightly better returns for stockholders and top brass.

Be careful not to poke that critter. He's almost as hard to get rid of as syphilis but nowhere near as funny, good looking, or intelligent.

Only if we are going to start at the beginning and read every word. No "skimming", no other silliness. I don't think I can make you check your bias and hatred at the door before beginning it but if you will at least read every word that would be a huge improvement and we could have an actual discussion.

I want you to commit to going through the entire text, starting over from the beginning of it.

Maybe start with the very first speech he gave as governor , where he mentioned Milwaukee not once though poured praise on cities much smaller (and redder).

... a professional security agent who works for the government. If the shooter was letting as much lead fly as some have been saying, you would be delirious to think that an average Joe with a pistol would have been effective in this situation. We're not sure who the dead gunman is yet, but it seems quite likely he had a goal in mind.

Walker didn't save Wisconsin from anything. Their economy is not nearly as good as your conservative spin would like to paint it to be. Employment numbers haven't been that bad there in a very very long time. If anything Walker is good at driving a wedge between two Wisconsins - the rural (and in some cases suburban or exurban) Wisconsin and the urban Wisconsin. He literally goes out of his way to not even acknowledge the existence of the largest city in Wisconsin in his speeches.

If the people of Milwaukee turn out the vote, his goose is cooked. If his supporters can pull off a stealth voter suppression run (hey, it almost worked in Ohio a few times) then he might be able to keep the mansion for another 4 years.