Replace "script kiddie application" with "helicopter gunship" and "hack a Chinese university" with "annihilate an Iraqi vegetable market", and you have the ethical equivalency the OP was getting at.
So the chinese doing some computer hacking is the moral equivalent to the US murdering a bunch lot of Iraqis. Then I guess that would make the chinese massacring a bunch of tibetans the moral equivalent of the US nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Honestly there really isn't any comparing the US and Chinese government. I make no excuses for the US gov't, but the US gov't is the obnoxious, occasionally destructive frat boy to the Chinese gov't's sociopathic homicidal con-man.
Worst part is that kind of government is a part of chinese culture, too. that's sort of how they've run the show for most of their history. it's fucking weird.
No. It's not weird at all. The sociopathic homicidal way to govern has been the rule throughout history and still is. The only weird part is that some people in the west have developed the absurd notion that their countries are run in a different manner. The places that diverted even briefly from this model quickly became the victims of revolutions or invasions after which the psychos who won in those revolutions and wars quickly vilified the losing party to cover their own genocidal crimes. And exactly from those farces some gullible fools got the idea there's some justice in this world.
I don't disagree with your premise, but they have lots of money. Staying in control is the tricky part.
Yup. It's all about control. The money is just the means to that end. Which is why people assume wars had to be for a "higher purpose" since they cost a lot more than the winers could have gotten back. But it's never about profit. Control is the name of the game because it doesn't matter how profitable or not you are when you get utterly defeated- you lose everything.
But my point is they could have done it much cheaper, without paying for a western standard of living in Israel
Eh, it's not their money. It's ours. They have written the laws so that THEY don't really pay taxes, nor do the corporations which will employ them when they leave office. Oh sure, they pay half the taxes... but they own 95% of everything so I see a wee bit of disparity there.
I'm quite sure they view the entire economy as their domain and the population as their serfs. In their mind everything everywhere is theirs, including the pesky arabs that are sitting on their oil.
If that was the aim they would have been left to their own devices against the arabs.
If that were the case they would likely have fallen and then the situation in the region would be free to resolve itself. Can't have that.
I understand what you mean
Hostile neighbors of their own making by coveting their neighbor's land.
Is it really of their own making? I think their primary sin is hubris. Or if you like, chutzpah. I still believe the nation of Israel was designed to foment hatred in the region, and so far, so good. Basically, keep the Jews from causing trouble by giving them a home where they have all the trouble they can eat...
If that was the aim they would have been left to their own devices against the arabs. Instead their economy and their army are subsidized by the US while their safety is also guaranteed by the US. There would be no need to go that far just for those reasons. The border of the empire is defended with cheap (read free) expendable barbarians, not hugely expensive usurious jews.
showed something like this on FutureWeapons a few years ago.
The Israelis sure do a lot of good military tech.
Of course for them it is a necessity, being surrounded by hostile neighbours.
Hostile neighbors of their own making by coveting their neighbor's land. Funny enough I think they had a commandment about that, but I guess it doesn't apply to non-jews, those are just goyim- cattle, slaves.
Do you have any clue what peak oil even is? Or what a logistic model of growth is, and why grows exponentially first and then slopes off as the marginal cost of growth increases?
Human labor is not inhibited like population growth, or it's first-derivative cousin natural resource extraction, because there's a fixed amount of it at any given time. If there's a decrease in demand for labor, then the price of it falls until the quantity demanded matches the quantity supplied. If that sounds scary, what that means is that our standard of living increases, since we can produce more things with the same amount of labor -- hardly a bad thing.
Really ? It seems to me wages are adjusted only down- by inflation or outsourcing to poorer countries while the price of goods is more or less adjusted for inflation. In that equation where's that increase in standard of living coming from ? You're assuming prices would and could be adjusted down to meet demand at lower prices. Problem is most companies operate on bank debt and simply can't afford that. It is proven in the 1929 crisis that companies will hold their prices, cut production and if that doesn't help go bankrupt- reducing prices is not an option since that would bring immediate inability to repay loans and bankruptcy.
I'm more curious why do they need to control everything from 1 computer? What's wrong with a simple keylock or if that's too 'medieval' for you, a standalone code lock? Also, why are the showers and everything electronically controlled? That's something most homes don't have.
I imagine it's for contingencies involving inmates taking over the prison. The ability to leave them without water would be quite a decent leverage against them, don't you think ?
What an extraordinary combination of astute observation and mad conspiracy theory.
Right, enjoy forking all your wealth to the banksters and their freemason cronies while laughing at those who see the truth. I wonder if you'll still be laughing when they'll starve you like they did with millions after 1929.
Germany is pretty much a Jewish state these days, what are you getting at?
- Dan.
It was also a jewish state before Hitler took over. Only difference is now they allow more goyim in the middle-upper classes. Before WW2 they simply pissed of way too many people by personally controlling absolutely everything, including all the retail stores- hence the swastikas the nazis painted on them to point out the level of control it got to.
Check your history before flaming or modding me down.
If it weren't for France there wouldn't be an America. Seriously, Philosophically, financially, and with their military help America was established. Then they turned around and did for themselves too.
- Dan.
And if king Louis XVI would have found a better way to spend the country's money other than further bankrupting it and inviting unrest by funding the american freemason rebellion, like for example paying an army to kill a bunch of bankers like his ancestors did with the predecessors of the freemasons- the templars, then maybe the world would be a somewhat better place.
There has to be laws against fraud, otherwise it would be rampant. Though this particular case may be bullshit, it doesn't matter. I state facts. If it were prohibition I would be a bootlegger. That answer it for you?
I suppose. If you'd have replied saying this is anything else than bullshit I'd suggest that you be declared a public slave by law which you'd naturally have no choice but to support given your unquestioning obedience to the law.
Its still fraud. Lying about the true nature of a financial transaction is fraud.
And pray, are you a cretin or just a government employed psychopath ? If the government leaves you no option but to be a criminal or close up an otherwise non-harmful (and funny enough, legal) business why do you support the government ? Not to mention they're just prosecuting something as fraud where there's no injured party. Or are you one of those idiots that support the law no matter how wrong and unjust ? And don't give me an answer like "I'm just stating the facts". If you care to emphasize such insanity without condemning it, you are in fact supporting it like the state owned slave that you are.
Top Ten Things Overheard At The ANSI C Draft Committee Meetings: (5) All right, who's the wiseguy who stuck this trigraph stuff in here?
