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Comment Re:I see a problem here... (Score 1) 380

Something is seriously wrong with this post of yours -

.... 2 ..... If a cartel wants to increase prices, all it has to do is agree to raise its prices. It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that they need to increase their input costs to raise their prices

My points 1, 2 and 3 were prefixed with "It makes the alternative unviable by". So "it" in the points 1, 2 and 3 meant alternative products.

Now read my post again. If a cartel wants to increase prices of alternative of its product, it needs to raise input prices of the sellers of the alternatives of its product.

I don't read this post of yours in more detail, because it suffers from an enormous misreading of my post.

Comment Re:So what about people without that choice? (Score 1) 710

No, you have to be stupid to not infer it.

Consider the statement "People should do C if A is true"

1. The READER is evaluating the predicate "A is true".
2. Recommendation is clearly for PEOPLE, not for the reader.

If, instead, you had said "you should do C if A is true", the "you" can conceivably considered to be addressing the reader.

Comment Re:I see a problem here... (Score 1) 380

No, cartel doesn't just increase the price of its own product mindlessly. It makes the alternative unviable by
1. getting it outlawed using the said "coercive" force at its disposal
2. increasing its prices by increasing business costs - taxes, buying off the required middlemen using bribe / business "concessions" / threats
3. slandering it using immense media propaganda so that public boycotts the alternative or at least considers it far inferior

So your "unless" clause of coercive force is perfectly applicable here.

Comment Re:Tradition (Score 1) 681

In a sensible operating system, applications would be in a menu categorized nicely. Using categories, you would be able to isolate applications within 4 or 5.

Even within that, tooltip for each application should have a short description to remove such doubts, but let us say such tooltips are also searched in case of the search paradigm so we can assume the applications are not kind enough to include tooltips.

Comment Re:I see a problem here... (Score 1) 380

unless perhaps there is a coercive agent to help enforce

So basically you are saying that in the real world where there IS the coercive agent i.e. government, this idea does not make business sense? Probably when the original poster said it does not make business sense, he meant the real world and not an imaginary one.

Comment Re:So what about people without that choice? (Score 1) 710

"rsilvergun thinks A is true" is not the same as "A is true"

For rsilvergun, the addressee, it is same.

And if I say "People should do C if A is true", this is different than saying "People should do C", because "rsilvergun thinks A is true" is not the same as "A is true".

"A is true" will be evaluated by the reader. So whoever the reader, if the reader thinks "A is true", then the following 2 are equivalent :
1. "People should do C if A is true"
2. "People should do C"

Knowing fully well that your addressee, rsilvergun, does think "A is true", your statement amounts to "People should do C" for him. And for every other reader who thinks "A is true".

The fact that rsilvergun thinks A is true does not affect what I am advocating.

For rsilvergun, you are advocating "people should do C".

Comment Re:Because I'm lazy (Score 1) 279

Maybe I should have said "likely defects in the code".

Exactly. Like I noticed you missed the adjective "possible" for defective in the second instance. I concluded not only a possible defect in your argument, but I concluded a likely defect in your argument. And I was right.

An unused declaration is very similar to this situation, and not only points out a possible defect but a likely one. Compiler could very well be right in his situation too.

Comment Re:Because I'm lazy (Score 1) 279

However by default most programmers expect the compiler to be warning about possible defects in the code, and a declared but unused variable is not a defect in the code.

It is a possible defect.

If you want proven defect, only a compilation error is a proven defect, so just turn off warnings while compiling.

Comment Re:So what about people without that choice? (Score 1) 710

Furthermore I was not suggesting that workers actually become employers. I was suggesting that this is what workers should do *if* the labor market was really as lop-sided as the original poster implied (which I don't think it is).

The original poster implied the labour market is very lop-sided because he thinks so. If you suggest him something *if* the labour market is very lop-sided, for him you suggested him that something.

Your opinion on labour market matters only if you suggested something *if* TsuruchiBrian thinks the labour market is very lop-sided.

Comment Re:Everybody is wrong... (Score 1) 270

My examples were monopoly situations but the lack of "upgrades" were not because it was a monopoly

We'll never know, at least in those examples, because you chose to use monopoly examples.

"100% of peak possible demand".

Ok, let us get this out of the picture because this is mentioned a lot in your post. Chas mentioned that internet capacity is deliberately under-provisioned. For this to be false, the ISPs do not have to satisfy 100% of peak possible demand - this is completely your invention. Even if the ISPs do not invest reasonably in improving network infrastructure, knowing well as every 10 year old knows for last 10 years that internet is a growing business, the under-provisioning is DELIBERATE. It is not just because it is the failure to satisfy 100% peak possible demand.

Hope this is understood - I am ignoring rest of your references to your absurd 100% peak possible demand which no one is talking about except you.

Running 100 long distance trunks to serve a 100 person central office would be "100% peak possible demand", but it would be outrageously expensive.

People talking long distances, while a growing business, is not as much a growing business as internet services. Taxis in new urban areas, or newly prosperous areas, are a much better example and their the taxi operators at times do have enough provisions for peak demand because peak is expected to grow. This also shows that lack of monopoly made the taxi operators upgrade the fleet. You mention that ISP's reluctance in upgrading is not due to monopolies without giving any reason - except the absurd interpretation of upgrade to mean 100% peak possible capacity.

The problem here is the fact that ISP business is a situation where customers don't have a real choice.

Even were that true, it would be irrelevant.

Taxi example proves it is relevant. You do not give any reason why it is not.

And at times the demand exceeds supply. They don't buy more taxis to cover that, they can't afford it.

They do in fast growing markets.

So you're saying that Netflix has to pay to increase the capacity of the delivery system (I was Netflix in the analogy, in case you missed it.)

1. If you were Netflix in that analogy, you don't understand the situation at all. You said "I buy 100 Mbps link", and your situation had YOUR link become the bottleneck in serving 2 100 Mbps customers. Netflix situation is not like that.

2. It is not impossible for a content provider to profitably provide for increasing their customer's internet connectivity - see Google/Amazon's plans/dreams/bluffs for providing drone wifi-access points in non-connected areas, e.g. Africa. Google bid pi billion dollars to ensure "net neutrality", and is investing in Google Fiber, probably at a loss. All this had Google "invest" around less than a dollar per potential customer. If Google had much higher margin customers, they could have invested the 100 s of dollars per customer that upgrading 100 Mbps to 200Mbps requires.

Coming to your example, I didn't mention that, because typically it takes a lot more than 2 customers to be able to do such things - probably billion customers. But if the 2 customers give you enough margin, sure, why not. Netflix has nowhere close to billion customers, nor a margin enough to do that.

Earlier you said that customers don't have a choice. And now you say I would choose a different provider.

Exactly. Which is why you are having to ask who pays for upgrade. If you had a choice, it would have been upgraded by now.

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