1. Download and install firefox
2. Install downloadhelper plugin for firefox
3. Open youtube video
4. Download it

Watch in trillion times better player of your choice - I use mplayer.

In a relatively small installation of total 2.9
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Sounds like reader error. I didn't blame systemd, this was an argument against your (unsubstantiated, as usual) argument that Fedora has good dependency tree. An I didn't say there was no backup access either. It is just stupid to remove sudo while removing vim-minimal. Probably makes sense with clean_requirements_on_remove, but not always.

Do you think the post you two replied to was made by someone rather than triggered by cosmic rays and solar flares ? Probably common sense? Same common sense helps people know the real reason for metro UI.

RedHat/Fedora is not better as I personally know. Removing systemd removes an enormous amount of "unrelated" software.

And no, Fedora doesn't have time to create correct dependency mapping. For last three releases, installing vim-enhanced "conflicts" with vim-minimal. Easy solution is to remove vim-minimal. Which also removes "sudo". Those who don't set root password and depend on sudo, now cannot install any thing as root.

For many software in many situations, it is not optional , see http://sporkbox.us/blog/?r=pag... for just one small example.
Not sure how X will turn out.

Whereas support for SysV init is naturally optional as I explained earlier.

Nopes, as far as I have seen, it's called ex-Gratia , and very deliberately NOT called compensation. Compensation opens them up to legal risks, ex-gratia doesn't.

Doesn't make sense at all. The guy who sent this email about firing thousands of people, was born in India. So some American was denied the Microsoft CEO job so that this Indian (US citizen now, I think) can get the job. Rules of the game are the same in top management too.

Yes. And that is why a dummy / fake systemd seems to me to be the only realistic solution. It need not have all the features of systemd, but it should be able to call scripts on simple systemd calls. That should be able to fit in with SysV init, or other initialization systems.

The software packages that contain this fake systemd will declare to provide systemd to the software package manager.

You do realize that X is used by non-linux UNIXes?

And you do realize that systemd does not support non-linux?

Why do you think these two together make a good idea?

Look - systemd is fine. But hard dependency of software on systemd is not fine. "Hard" dependency of software on init never created an issue - because it just meant that a shell script was shipped along with the software to start|stop|restart|status the software. Systems using systemd/upstart/SysVInit could use that shell script, or maybe not use that and roll something of their own.

You are right. I haven't looked into it in great detail, but the solution I see is to create a dummy systemd which need not have all the functionality of systemd but just translates simple systemd calls into shell scripts. Then it would fit into SysV init as well as other initialization systems.

Do you think it would work?

While the way Sony is behaving they are unlikely to survive 100 years, but if they do, they are sure to forget to renew after 100 years. Some bean counter will fire the guy responsible for keeping track of those 100 years and that email address will be abandoned.

This guy has nice analysis, an experiment with 2 restaurants, historical and psychological perspective http://jayporter.com/dispatche...

Right, and everyone doesn't advertise on Superbowl. Seeing Microsoft's failure in mobile devices, a smart MBA might have correctly concluded that Xbox "marketing" didn't help as much as it cost money, company focus, brand dilution etc.

This is not so clear cut. Google needs the sites to allow Google to crawl the sites otherwise no one needs Google. Sites need Google as a "free advertisement".

Like many give and take deals, this one too needs negotiation. Probably in some particular environment, Google ends up needing some business more than that business needs Google and Google has to pay that business. That should be fine.

Such companies are not being discussed. Amazon is being discussed, which followed the law by charging 1 penny shipping cost.