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Comment Re:When do people get this (Score 1) 613

It seems that most people who complain about memory usage don't know how memory is managed on modern operating systems, so they go all apeshit about "OMG HELP linux is using so much memory it sux0rz!!!"

I agree with you on that, but feel like the diagnostic is somehow ... opposite: "it seems that linux developers fail to show memory usage in a way that average user can understand".

Comment Re:Lego-like (Score 1) 158

6. Dealing with memory leaks on most browsers (ex: ff) is nearly impossible

On your #2 point, my experience is that coding for: FF3, Safari4, Chrome and IE8, is no longer a compatibility nightmare. Dealing with performances and memory remain a nightmare on my view (except on Chrome which rocks on garbage collecting).

Comment Re:It doesn't matter (Score 1) 505

Memory usage comes with a bad side effect: memory fragmentation, which tends to eat a significant share of CPU cycles for no reason other than allocate/reorganize/etc memory blocs. That's a problem.

Seeing how well FF shows on TFA is just amazing to me. My own experience tells me the contrary: FF performs bad when it comes to memory usage and, more importantly, leaks. At some point, just exiting FF (usualy because it reached the swap area) on my linux box takes about 30s. ff guys think using the exit() syscall is not good enough, hence ff tries to unallocate everything before exiting, which takes forever and tells a lot on how the memory is badly fragmented with tons of leaked small memory blocs.

Comment Re:In other news... (Score 2, Interesting) 465

I gave safari a run on my web app, which uses a lot of clientside scripting and has been designed to "work" on FF, IE7, chrome. I did not optimize anything for any browser, it was just a test to make sure I would make mac users happy. I was amazed by performances, really. The JS runtime is way better than anything else I've tested, and even beats chrome which is also really good. More importantly, it seems almost immune from memory leaks, compared to ff3 which needs a restart when approaching 1GB.

Comment Re:What next? I'll tell you what's next... (Score 1) 911

Your solution might works for 5% of the population; the remaining 95% will keep buying preinstalled machines running windows, macosx and occasionaly linux, and won't have a clue about what is an OS and how to install them. Maybe my numbers are wrong, but the figure is probably accurate and I fail to see how more (some?) courtesy from microsoft would change that. End user education is necessary, but not really practical.

Microsoft

Submission + - France says no to OpenXML

herve_masson writes: vnunet is amongst the first to report that AFNOR rejected OpenXML as a standard. See the french article here (google translation here). According to the article, the reason seems not related to (lack of) technical merits, but because they don't see having two standards for documents as a good thing.
KDE

Submission + - KDE 4.0 Beta 1 Released (kde.org)

An anonymous reader writes: August 2, 2007 (The INTERNET). The KDE Community is happy to announce the immediate availability of the first Beta release for KDE 4.0. This release marks the beginning of the integration process which will bring the powerful new technologies included in the now frozen KDE 4 libraries to the applications. Almost two months after the foundations of KDE 4 have been laid with the first alpha, KDE enters the stage of a full freeze of the library interface. From now on, the applications will focus on integrating the new technology refined during the last months, and the library developers will try to fix all bugs found during this process. No new applications will enter the official KDE modules and usability and accessibility work is of course an ongoing process. In the following weeks KDE developers will be able to add features to their applications until the next beta is released and the application features will be frozen as well.

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