what ever, this absolutely has nothing to do with life imitating art at all. if no movie, play, story, you name it had ever been made, this still would have happened. it's just people trying to smuggle stuff they shouldn't always find creative ways to do so, always!

And I'm not disagreeing with that, not even a little.

I'm saying it isn't possible to make up something and say "but that could only happen in a movie". Sometimes you see stuff in movies and go "yeah, no way" only to find it has a basis in truth.

I'm not saying the convicts watched a movie and said "hey, let's try that". I'm saying never underestimate the motivation of people who don't want to be there, and have lots of time on their hands.

So when someone says "this isn't Hollywood", I think "nope, we wouldn't believe it if Hollywood did it".

If it's physically possible, it's probably likely been tried, or will be if someone figures out how.

Honestly, I assume for every new thing you put into stop one thing it just creates another class of problem for you.

I also assume there's nothing so far fetched it hasn't been tried.

I hereby invoke the "he needed killkin' " laws Texas is alleged to have, and suggest it is both moral and correct in the defense of our rights to shoot every asshole associated with the copyright cartel.

You're welcome.

Now get on with it.

(No, I'm not actually advocating murder)

Right, and a drone dropping drugs into the prison yard is in no way like something out of a movie.

Honestly, the world is a screwed up place, and this entire incident is meta enough to seem like something out of Hollywood.

Life imitating art and all that.

LOL, I do know that ... but I find it useful to convey the explicit outrage for the slower among us who actually think this is somehow different.

Far too many people act as if it's really OK because we're the good guys, and miss the entire point.

Even with the relatively high value of the cargo, it is still hard to see how the person who delivered it could reasonably expect to be paid for it.

You don't watch many movies, do you? Or missed the whole thing where the Mexican cartel guy had a tunnel excavated under the prison and "nobody noticed"?

As much as it sounds like a Hollywood fantasy, it's not like people in prison have no contact with the outside world, and don't have a lot of time on their hands to come up with new ways to work around the system.

Hell, you could do a Tarantino plot about the shit you could drop into a prison yard to create unrest.

Hell, have one drone drop in a bag of weapons and have another with a long zoom televise the the gladiatorial games which ensue.

It really was only a matter of time until drugs and other stuff started getting dropped into prisons. People have been doing low tech versions of this for decades, if not centuries.

Well, that's where the regulatory capture comes in. For some, it's a stated goal.

In case you haven't been paying attention, it's already happened.

Lobbyists work for government long enough to stack the deck before they return to being lobbyists. Corporations write the laws which give them the best deal.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So, it's good because it's only fascism-lite for now?

Because, honestly, the fact that it's stepping all over the law and the Constitution to do it tells me there should be a lot more outrage than there is.

You know, like the nationally endorsed perjury they call "parallel construction" and the police forces which want to hide the fact they illegally use surveillance technology without a warrant?

I have yet to be convinced they actually only target individuals. In fact, I'm pretty sure what they do amounts to general warrants.

But, no, let's keep pretending our own governments aren't trying to do the same exact thing and that it's only a little illegal curtailing of our rights and a tiny amount of ignoring due process of law.

I'm not a cow and neither are you.

It's still easier for me to eat meat or cheese than any plant product. That's not even getting into people that might not even be able to eat one particular thing or another.

Full throttle omnivorism is the only sensible approach.

Anything else and you are likely to miss something or fail to "complement" something properly.

I'm not a dirt poor 3rd world person. I don't have to punish myself and pretend I wasn't born in the 1st world.

Besides, my own dietary requirements right now likely could not be sustained without animal products. Although I am certainly a corner case.

Don't be a moron. The "completely legal" medical services probably refer to pap smears, condoms, and pre-natal vitamins.

Planned Parenthood does a lot more than abortions.

This is a little fact that gets glossed over by the extremist crusaders trying to suppress their political rivals by any means necessary.

It's much like burning down all the Targets because they sell birth control pills.

And we're supposed to think this is different from Western governments demanding crypto backdoors, the ability to intercept at the data center, and secret warrants allowing them to demand all info in secret?

Sorry, but all governments are trending towards fascism, that China is doing this surprises me not even a little.

What we should be outraged at is the fact the governments of "free" countries are half way to doing the same fucking thing.

Sure, it's not outright censorship yet ... but give it time.

The difference is I don't need to give a fuck what the Chinese government does. I have no ability to stop the US government or other western governments doing the same thing, and that does affect me.

I am sure ANY business is capable of keeping funds separate.

This is just basic accounting.

You sound like trailer trash that has never been responsible for anything, not even a decent family budget.

Babies are born. In that respect, they are covered by the 14th Amendment.

Fetuses are not babies and never have been. Even born babies haven't always had completely human status. In many societies they aren't even named until it's shown that they will survive.

If anything, newborns are little more than external fetuses that are highly dependent and terribly fragile. They're nothing like any of their counterparts in the rest of the animal kingdom.

If it can't survive without the mothership then how can you really call it a separate legal entity?