Well, that IS a reasonable answer. I'm not sure I buy it either... frankly, the dress code made me resentful since it had no real purpose.

I think you missed the point. GP expressed a wish for a 5-gen chip with more cores, and no graphics.

There's a lot to be said for that.

I worked for a software house around 2000. They said they expected "professional" attire, including collared shirts (men & women) and knee-length skirts or dockers and better for pants. No jeans.

Now, that might actually seem reasonable... except for the fact that I sat in a cubical doing my programming and seldom even saw my co-workers, much less anyone else. So who the hell was I supposed to impress? My boss? There were only 5 programmers in the whole place, each to our own space. I seldom even glanced at my boss other than once a week meeting.

Very occasionally a customer came to the office. And I saw one, only once. And I had advance notice.

So when I was alone there in my cubicle, why the hell did anybody care if I even wore anything from the waist down? Or up, for that matter? Since the dividers were 6' high?

Someone give me an answer that is based on reason, rather than tradition. If you can find one.

PC always had a "you're screwed if you don't toe the line" attitude.

It was never fine and cute. It has always been about social control.

Absolute bullshit. Karl et al. conclusion is an outlier. And you don't have to be a scientist to know it... if it weren't, there wouldn't have been news media all over the place reporting "No 'Hiatus' After All".

Outliers are outliers. They can be recognized from their conclusions, as I did, but by lay people they can also often be recognized by the media uproar they stir. Simple logic says that if it hadn't been NEWS, it wouldn't have made a stir in the news.

Again, nonsense. NOAA and NASA assume that high and low temperature records were taking at particular times of day. There is no rational basis for making that assumption on a large scale. It might be true in many cases but before there were standards, people at least attempted to take high temperature readings at the hottest part of the day, and low temperature readings at the coldest.

Again, that's just simple logic, which seems to be beyond your ken.

The rest of this is your same old "bringing up old shit and inappropriately trying to insert it into current conversation", as you did above by inserting statements made weeks ago, entirely out-of-context.

When are YOU going to learn that tactic is utterly dishonest and despicable, not to mention just plain invalid logical argument?

You've argued here with at least several things I've said in the past which had absolutely nothing to do with the context of the current conversation. Not only does that not refute my point, it rather shows you for the asshole you are. That comment is based on my strong opinion of your consistent (and recorded) actions.

Please point out an actual "complaint", Bluey. Then maybe we'd know what you're talking about.

And it today's America, it is also complete bullshit.

When your legal system has so many laws -- many of them not even enforced -- that law enforcement, whose job it is, can't even tell if something is illegal, then it is not reasonable to expect an average citizen to do the same.

And above all else, our laws are supposed to based on the "reasonable man" principle: what would a reasonable person do in those circumstances?

When a reasonable person cannot reasonably be expected to know the law, yet is unreasonably be expected to, and punished if they don't, another reasonable person might well conclude that this is a recipe for madness and anarchy.

It depends entirely on which data you're talking about. There was data that was included and probably should not have been, and data that was excluded and probably should not have been.

But the "raw vs adjusted" argument has no bearing on the fact that the Karl paper reaches different conclusions, based on the available data, than just about everyone else, AND used highly questionable methods to reach those conclusions. The fact that it was THEN adopted as the "official" record, when it is actually an outlier, reinforces the notion that NOAA just wanted to support their foregone conclusion.

A mathematician or statistician can spot improper use of statistics no matter what the field. Climate science -- and every other field of science -- uses (or is supposed to use) standard scientific and mathematical methods to prove their point.

No, you do NOT have to be a climate scientist to spot bad methodology. You only have to know a couple of things to call out a good number of climate scientists. (1) What is proper, standard scientific methodology? (2) What is proper, standard use of statistical methods on datasets?

If YOU don't understand that, then the Dunning-Kruger table has been rather turned. Have fun.

As for reconstructive surgery: I can GUESS whatever the hell I like, if I label it as such (as I did). If you don't like that, too bad. If you have contrary evidence, present it and show my guess to be wrong. Otherwise your own point works against you.

Hilarious.

Math is math. Methodology is methodology. No matter what field you are in. If you don't understand that... well, you must not be a scientist.

1) If you don't identify yourself don't be surprised when you get confused with someone else.

2) You can imagine whatever meaning I intended that you want. Your imagination does not make it so.

3) I owe you nothing. I am "going to have to" do nothing.

Yes, they really did adjust data as I described.

Yes, they really did leave out more accurate data with wider coverage.

BUT, they were sure to INCLUDE data that was guaranteed to put a warming trend in their dataset.

Coincidence? I think not.

"Complaining"? No.

There were zero "complaints" in my comment. Do you even know what the word means?

Oh? Just what do you know about me, mr. "Anonymous Coward"? Oh, right... we really know who you are, don't we? That's how you can claim to know about me.

I don't have to be a climate scientist to spot data manipulation. I don't have to be a surgeon to see something that deviates widely from other work in the field. No, I am not a surgeon. But I follow the publicly-published work in reconstructive surgery when I get a reasonable chance.

Do you?

"They" is implicit from the CONTEXT... which I know you just don't seem to understand.

Further, "get stuffed" is NOT an insult, it's a phrase which means "go away".

Really, guy, this was lame. Really, really lame. I can hardly wait to see those others you left.