Wait a second

If corporations are people doesn't that mean when they commit negligence that gets tons of people killed they can be punished... just like people? And when that negligent mass murder is willful can't the charges be upped to a murder charge with the consequence of capital punishment?

For corporations that means dissolution, right? I mean, they are people and that's what we do to people, right?

Dang, maybe you're not a commie after all. Nevermind!

Dude, sod the frak off with your "who is paying" nonsense.

The fact is we need to stop people from spreading COVID-19. Take your little government nonsense and go stuff it. If you're not talking about how to avoid people dying intubated in a hospital then you're just not relevant to any adult discussion at all.

All I've been hearing lately is "Shut them down" vs "Keep them open!"

Thank you, sir, for expressing some sensible pragmatic nuance.

Opportunists are clearly using COVID-19 as a war on the working class and people of color. That's who this disease is killing the most of. That's why you have Trump's guy Mr. Atlas promoting "Herd immunity" aka let everyone get infected and let the weak perish and why you have so many people using "but muh freedumb" as an excuse to fight government orders for masks and lockdowns. It's not at all about freedom - it's because everyone knows Coronavirus is killing the very people the Far Right has deemed undesirable.

This works quite well for the elite agenda. Because killing the working class and poor wipes out the demographic that votes the most for "socialist" programs like higher taxes and social safety nets.

We sure as fuck can control the spread of said diseases, aka WE CAN IN FACT CONTAIN IT and we have done so in the past. The wealthy people of the Dark Ages managed to contain and control it with quarantine, social distancing and lockdowns. They did that back during the Black fucking Death. We're 800 years in the future, why aren't we as smart as they are?

Don't give me that cowardly rot about not being able to contain it. We as a society need a God damned spine. Yes I am cursing, because guess what, me and mine stand to die NEEDLESSLY because of people who think like you. Your thinking is getting people killed. And by God I am not going to have any of that shit. Not I and not millions of the rest of us who want us and ours to survive this.

"We" as in those of us who don't want to get infected and will resort to any means, legal or illegal, to avoid infection. Legal. Or. Illegal. Better a criminal than slowly dying alone intubated in a hospital, if it comes to that. The "it is going to happen anyway" crowd had better get to understand that quickly. We're the majority in this country.

And that tactic is how you get to the current body count of 234,000 dead.

Trump's advisor Atlas defines herd immunity as letting the infection run uncontrolled until it gets to everyone, and let the strong survive and the weak perish.

That's not what We the Public want. But it is also what We the Public don't realize is their agenda.

AKA "get everyone infected" because this virus disproportionately hurts African Americans and the poor.

For those who don't believe me about Trump and his herd immunity agenda: https://www.forbes.com/sites/j...

As for who coronavirus kills the most:
https://www.apmresearchlab.org...
https://emorywheel.com/covid-1...

THAT is also why you see a lot of Trump supporters and COVID-19 deniers: they know they're far less likely to die of the virus than the people they have disdain for. The odd COVID denier death aside, statistically this is true.

COVID-19 has become an opportunistic platform for genocide.

We have no idea whether we are improbable life on a perfect planet, or inevitable life on a sub-par planet - or something in between.

AFAIK we could currently detect a civilization at our technological level or higher from across the galaxy, yet haven't detected any, and that Milky Way contains some quarter trillion stars, so it would seem we are very improbable indeed.

Climate science has a vast oversupply of skeptics as it stands. It's highly counterproductive to hand them legitimate fuel for scornful dismissal of the legitimate science, just because some romantic nitwit on a poesy jag can't keep it in her pants ...

Climate "skeptics" are arguing in bad faith for a conclusion necessitated by their ideology or personal interest (or both), and will simply make shit up whenever needed. Any excuse will serve a tyrant. It's pointless to worry about it.

On the plus side we get to be the god kings of a future Universe if we don't blow ourselves up.

Judging by the entire human history and present that's not a plus for any being, human or otherwise, living in that future Universe.

The solution is a labor union strong enough to force a mandatory minimum wage sufficient to live on. Don't blame robber barons exploiting desperate people on those desperate people, blame it on the barons. Such attribution errors simply serve to divide and conquer the working class, and thus make you yourself easier prey.

Is anything worth saving if everyone's an asshole? Should we just hope for a giant meteor? Is that our new social religion?

Funny you would say so, seeing how the majority religion of the US is a literal doomsday cult wishing for the world to end since it's full of sinners.

Ever wonder why Fox News routinely beats the shit out of its competition on a regular basis?

It tells assholes they're actually victims and thus don't need to change. Flattering tyrants and easing their consciences have always been a profitable proposition, just as long as you're willing to sell your soul.

there is a bombshell hiding in those tax returns that Trump is deathly afraid of the world seeing

Why? The people who support Trump will continue doing so no matter what because Trump is not a librul. And the people who don't support Trump can't possibly think any less of him or his supporters. So what could Trump's tax returns possibly reveal that would change matters any?