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Comment Re:My understanding.... (Score 2, Informative) 171

I thought this was a geek heavy site and that networking would be somewhat understood.

In "lay man"'s terms, cellular standards before LTE (I am talking mostly of 3GPP standards but I assume this applies to WiMAX as well) are really really messy.

A normal UMTS radio access network which has evolved from GSM to UMTS might be amix of TDM, ATM och IP based networks with legacy protocols such as SS7. Through that together with general telecom wierdness where much intelligence is deep inside the network.

These networks are optimizing for running voice traffic, so when you are running VoIP you are pushing what the networks are capably of. Also, since there are usually 3-4 nodes between your phone and the gateway to the packet core you will have latency issues since the network is not putting your VoIP-session in a high QoS class.

I am not really sure if you are interested in knowing the gory details, but that was a quick overview. There should be RF- and core-network engineers here on /. who can explain these things more in detail, I only have experience from R&D of these systems in a lab environment.

Comment Re:My understanding.... (Score 1) 171

VoIP = Voice over IP

UDP = User Datagram Procotol

GTP-U = GPRS (GSM Packet Radio System) Tunneling Protocol Userplane. A tunneling protocol which is setup by the radio access network towards the packet core network for transporting your IP traffic from your UE (user equipment, e.g. phone, modem or other device).

GGSN = The gateway (Gateway GPRS Support Node) node where all IP traffic from the radio access network enters the packet core.

Comment Re:My understanding.... (Score 1) 171

I think it's safe to say that I understand none of your understanding.

UMTS = Universial Mobile Telephony System, which is mostly implemted as WCDMA everywhere except China where TD-SCDMA is used. These names for the L1 protocol, also known as the air interface.

DS0 = Digital Signal 0, a 64kbit/s transmission standard.

T1 = 1.544Mbps physical connection which can carry up to 24 DS0

STM-1 = 155Mbit/s framing standard for optical networks based on SDH (Synchronous Digital Hierarchy).

Multiplexing = Taking several bit streams and combining them into one stream to send it over one physical interface.

Inverse Multiplexing = Taking a high bit rate connection and splitting it into many "virtual" lower bit rate connections. For example making a whole bunch of DS0 (64 kbit/s remember?) connections from the STM-1 (155Mbit/s remember?) connection.

Comment Re:My understanding.... (Score 2, Informative) 171

Well I'm not sure, but I would guess that their digital voice is using something more efficient than TCPIP, and in addition they're compressing the hell out of the audio whereas a VoIP program might opt to use lesser compression. Beyond that, I don't know if there's something like different "channels" where they've set aside a certain portion of their bandwidth for voice and other portions for data, which means that using that not-using their voice service doesn't necessarily open up more bandwidth for data.

Voice is circuit switched in UMTS so of course there are different "channels", or tubes if you like. Voice is mostly likely AMR coded over the air interface which is then sent over a ds0 over a T1, either physical or inverse multiplexed over a STM-1 further into the circuit switched core network.

So, yes it will be much for efficent than your run of the mill VoIP which will travel over as UDP over a GTP-U tunnel terminated in the GGSN.

Comment Re:No WCMDA/HSPA or even CDMA/EVDO is a huge miss (Score 1) 1713

How can you claim to be making a mobile device if it does not have mobile broadband? This thing yearning for a mobile internet connection so bad. The only reason that I can think of is that Steve is waiting to deploy this on Verizon's coming LTE network.

Now it came! :)

It will be using AT&T's WCDMA/HSPA network. Good stuff!

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