"First sale rights means that I am allowed to sell the copy of a book that I bought."

Apologies, I thought I remembered first sale include more general rights to make personal use of a copy, but I think you're right. (The same rights may still exist but more likely fall under fair use.)

"First sale rights does not allow me to let you scan my copy of the book."

If we permit a library to scan its own books, and then provide a google-books like search in them, then I wonder where we'd draw the line?:

- Universities A, B, and C each provide full-text search of their own collections.
- Google provides Google book searches by collating results from searches sent to A, B, and C.
- Google in addition rents and/or sells hardware and services necessary for A, B, and C to scan and provide full-text search to their collections. At this point it's just Google book search except that the data stored in Google's data servers is nominally still the university's.
- Google book search.

To me the differences all seem unimportant as long as the only use of the scans is to provide search results.

"You have no right to full-text searches of books."

That's exactly the question posed by the case. I suspect you can make a good case that current last *does* grant you that right.

And, then whether it does or not, you can ask: *should* the law grant that right? Deciding that is a matter of trying to decide in which world we'd all be better off: a world where authors got a little more incentive to write (thanks to the additional revenue stream from licensing to search engines) versus a world in which a project like Google books is possible. Personally, I'm pulling for the latter.

"People pay good money for access to databases to search published journals."

And they get access to some little walled garden of works controlled by one publisher or consortium of publishers.

Compare that to full-text search of multiple major university libraries.

And ask if there's any chance we'll ever get the latter, if the only way to do it is to track down ever single copyright holder.

"What is Google's defense?"

They're not distributing copies of books--they're doing searches and returning small snippets. The books are scanned, with the permission of their owners, only in order to allow those searches.

I would have thought first-sale rights would permit the owners of books to have their own copies scanned, and that fair use would permit Google to search them and return snippets.

None of this cuts into the publisher's traditional source of profits at all, as the publisher is still who a member of the public goes to to get a copy of the book.

If we really think copyright holders should have complete control over how every copy of their work is *used*, not only distributed, then they should have cut off the problem at the source and forbidden libraries....

"Rule of law"?

Look, google isn't distributing copies of these books. They're searching for terms in them and returning snippets. That doesn't compete in the least with the business of people that are selling the entire book.

"there is nothing good about what Google is doing, except to the very short sighted."

They're providing an unprecedented and extremely useful service: the ability to perform full-text searches of entire multiple libraries' worth of books in fractions of a second from anywhere in the world.

If we require opt-in, then the immense number of rights owners involved is likely to make building such a service impractical.

We could be having the same argument about libraries: why shouldn't copyright owners be consulted about whether they want their books loaned out?

Fortunately the drafters of the copright law produced something flexible enough to provide incentives to authors while still allowing for services such as libraries. Flexible enough, even, to accommodate services like Google's that didn't exist at the time--fair use and first-sale rights provide all the basis the courts would need to find Google well within the rule of law, and I very much hope that's what happens.

Is that using open-source drivers or nvidia's proprietary drivers? (Again, for my case I'm only interested in the free drivers.)

"I bet you'll have a hard time finding anyone running integrated graphics in a home built machine, certainly not one running a top-tier CPU in it."

As a kernel developer I have scripts running all day that compile new kernels, boot VM's to them, and run some tests. The faster the better. I wouldn't say no to lower utility bills either even if it's not the first thing I look at.

But in any case, for graphics, the integrated stuff is fine. And Intel's involvement in Linux graphics development has meant their stuff has been among the best supported for a while. (Maybe that's changed lately, I haven't kept up). I usually build my own machines (partly exactly because I seem to recall it being hard to find pre-built desktops with higher performance that could get usable graphics without the need for proprietary drivers. Which may not be a factor for others but I want to be able to debug problems on the latest upstream kernel without worrying about what some binary driver might be doing.)

So there's one small counterexample, to your first statement if not the second. (I usually get a better CPU but nothing "extreme".)

Shrug. If it's projected on a screen in a movie theater, it's a movie. If it happens on a stage in a theater, let's call it a play. That doesn't make it a good movie, or good theater. If it's stuck on a pedestal in an art gallery, let's call it art, OK? Why is that a problem?

And personally I think sticking it on a pedestal under a spotlight in an art gallery adds an extra dimension of hilarity to the whole idea. I like it.

Well, this is primarily something to be displayed in a gallery so I suppose it makes sense to make something printable that could be stuck on the wall next to it or included in the exhibit catalog, or whatever. And then why not throw it on the web site. This is a problem for you?

Fair enough. Note, though, that most users get their kernels from their distro, who build them from source that hopefully they got out of git or otherwise verified.

Also in theory it should be easy to verify the tarballs that were distributed. It'll be interesting to see whether that turns up anything.

Open source? I think you overestimate the difficulty of malicious modification of binaries.

Yes, that would explain the record high inflation we've had since the start of the recession:

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=50467&category_id=0

Err, wait. OK, but surely exchange rates went off a cliff? Um, OK, I'm not turning up much there either....

Googling.... From http://www.cato.org/testimony/ct-dg06132007.html, "In 2003, the most recent year for figures, a total 16,874 U.S. SMEs exported to China." Too lazy to find something more up-to-date.

And if you want to help exports, you could worrying about the dollar being to *low* against foreign currencies....

Compared to other countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP

Historical revenues for US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Revenue_and_Expense_to_GDP_Chart_1993_-_2008.png

Not actually true; given steady (across business cycles) income growth, you can keep spending more than you take in while keeping your debt load (hence debt service) a constant percentage of your income. That is in fact what most countries do.

That's not to say the US doesn't have a long-term debt problem: mainly, as I understand it, we need to get health care expenses under control and raise revenues. But it's a solvable problem, which is why people have continued to be willing to loan us money at very low rates (and probably will despite any downgrading); people who are actually betting their money on it think we're extremely likely to figure this out.

But I know the rest of you walk on water...

Uh, no, we just don't answer the damn phone. That isn't next to impossible. It isn't walking on water. It isn't even going on a diet or quitting smoking. It's easy.

Really, I understand that 99.99% of driving is boring as hell. The other .01% includes moments when you see something in front of you that you didn't see a second ago. In a lifetime of driving, eventually one of those moments may coincide with one of the seconds when you were paying attention to your phone.

As long as you're piloting that your 2 tons of car on the public road, the rest of us would appreciate it if you would please keep your attention on what you're doing.

Well, that ignores the question.

Following some links. A fan of this Peter Schiff guy? You realize he a) appears to have a background in accounting, not economics, b) seems to have his own self interest (selling gold??), c) seems to cling to a lot of ideas that most economists consider long ago discredited. Anyone else you follow for analysis of the economy?

Some sources I'd recommend: The Economist, blogs by Krugman (or pick your favorite actual economist). Agree or disagree, some understanding of a wider variety of viewpoints is helpful.

Right, but the opportunity cost in this case is:

      (income from investing) - (income from stuffing cash under your mattress)

The second number is deflation.

And you're claiming that increasing deflation *increases* the opportunity cost.

At the very least, that's a claim that needs some convincing evidence!

If there is deflation, then I can get a few percent a year just by stuffing my cash under a mattress. Why would that increase the incentive to invest my money?