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Comment Re:Your plan? (Score 1) 620

The solution is not really one most of us would like to stomach though since it amounts to "kill off a couple billion people," either directly or by leaving them to starve or die of disease.

There is another solution. Wealthy societies are low fertility societies. Current mitigation efforts run counter to generating wealth (particularly, generating higher energy costs and moving wealth around ineffectively).

My view is that in the long term, moving the standard of living of the Somalian to the standard of living of the Minnesotan is a better strategy even from the point of view of climate change than implementing policies that degrade the standard of the Minnesotan while doing nothing positive for the Somalian.

Wealthier societies can more easily adapt to the modest climate change than poor societies can adapt to no change at all. And it is better to have better control of overpopulation than to have continued population growth and thus need for harsher and harsher control over environment impact of humanity.

Comment Re: Wheb you can't beat 'em (Score 1) 202

The US doesn't have the only court system. According to Wikipedia, the UK and the Netherlands don't have judicial review.

Some countries do not permit a review of the validity of primary legislation. In the United Kingdom, statutes cannot be set aside under the doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty. Another example is the Netherlands, where the constitution expressly forbids the courts to rule on the question of constitutionality of primary legislation.

Comment Re: When you can't beat 'em (Score 1) 202

Why have the other branches then? Just have the courts run everything. Justly, of course.

that you will have to face up to your own loaded question, of a character that could be considered irrelevant, in particular to glitch!'s remarks.

Words have meaning. Loaded question doesn't mean "I'm butthurt because someone on the internets disagrees with me." Instead it means

A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt).

What is being assumed in my question:

Why have the other branches then?

Obviously, there is the assumption that there are more than one branch in some sort of democratic government context which is justified given glitch! explicitly mentioned two branches of government, legislative and courts. And there's the implication that this somehow neuters the legislature (which was the key point of my observation and a clear problem with glitch!'s post which several people noted).

And that's it. It's not a big question so there's not a lot of assumptions hidden in it.

As to "could be considered irrelevant", I suggest you don't do that. A court which can reinterpret legislation without regard for the writing or intent has the power to craft their own law. What is the point of a legislature which can be overridden and bypassed at will by the courts?

glitch! said courts should be able to do these things without regard for the abuses of power that this leads to. That's why courts usually don't have that power in the first place.

Comment Re: When you can't beat 'em (Score 1) 202

Unfortunately, you did not answer my question

No. I think I was quite fortunate. I will not answer your loaded question (loaded because it falsely implies that I did not "demand justice" from courts) because it isn't worth answering due both to the obvious of the answer and to the irrelevance to what anyone else has posted here.

Comment Re:Wheb you can't beat 'em (Score 1) 202

How is that different from now? We have highly inconsistent ruling and a legal system more or less that fails to serve any useful purpose other than to serve the people who already have the money and power. I would prefer that the judicial system interpret the laws with this in mind, and not blindly suport the general philosophy that he who has the gold makes the rules.

That's not the job of courts. That's the job of voters to police.

Comment Re: When you can't beat 'em (Score 1) 202

Why have courts if you do not demand that they do justice?

Sounds like you already know some reasons why. My point is that a court with unchecked power is as just as a legislature or a head of state with unchecked power - which is not at all. These checks on the power of courts are to prevent injustice.

Comment Re:Wheb you can't beat 'em (Score 1) 202

No. The legislature so often passes questionable bills, saying that the courts will judge their intent. The courts often say that the bills should have been more specific. I say that a court should look for JUSTICE and not the letter of the law. If a law is just 90% of the time, then a case should be dismissed 10% of the time. Because it is not just in that case. Strict interpretation is wrong.

Why have the other branches then? Just have the courts run everything. Justly, of course.

Comment Re:yes but.... (Score 1) 111

Well just how devastating can local effects be? Sure, if you have huge numbers of desalinization plants running up the coast of say, California, dumping very salty water right off shore, it's going to cause problems for that region. But we have rather simple and low energy technologies for mixing salt into water that can greatly reduce the problem.

Comment Re: Why shop at Walmart (Score 1) 467

I still suggest that. This is a typical semantics shift. "Decent product" means different things to each of us. The original post stated that some businesses create "brand-destroying" products. That's not decent product. And customers can put two and two together when all the stuff they get from a retailer is crap.

For whatever reason, a lot of people prefer low price over quality. I've seen nothing in this thread to even show there is an actual problem. If instead you want quality, you don't buy it at the retailer shaving all these costs.

For example, from a much earlier post:

Look at a rubbermaid mop bucket at Home depot. Then look at a rubbermaid mop bucket at Walmart. Then tell me their is 'no evidence'.

In other words, one can buy a better product presumably for more from Home Depot. There are probably other mop buckets sold online or via catalogue of far higher quality, if you're willing to shop for them too. So it is not an actual problem that Walmart sells flimsier mop buckets. Just pay more for what you really want.

Comment Re: Why shop at Walmart (Score 1) 467

That mentioned that mid-market products get priced out of the market by cheap knock offs whose price eventually gets raised to match the mid-market goods that were driven out, except the quality never gets put back in?

You're making the broad assumption that the mid-markets were better quality. Why is the cheaper product winning in the first place?

Comment Re:"Green" technologies aren't sufficient. (Score 1) 251

We can't make rational decisions by considering cost vs benefits of a choice? That is absolutely the best way to make rational decisions so long as the usual bs move of externalizing environmental, societal, and future impacts isn't how we carry them out. As long as all costs are considered, then cost vs benefits is the only way to make a choice.

Wow, that's pretty broken. In other words, you only consider the costs of "externalizing environmental, societal, and future impacts" which is exactly the problem I was speaking of.

Ignoring the opportunity costs of a choice is not least harm. The reason we burn coal in the first place is because it is useful to do so. And that utility also generates externalities, but of the positive sort.

What would you propose we use a basis for decision making? Coin flip? Pray to the invisible hand of the market? Some other bullshit god?

Externalities are easy to engineer for. Just stick in some revenue-neutral tax on coal or whatever. Just be careful to avoid excessive costs because of a quasi-religious conviction that coal burning is bad. Past that, markets. Problem solved.

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