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Submission + - As Hurricane Idalia caused flooding, some EVs exposed to saltwater caught fire (cbsnews.com)

schwit1 writes: Floridians battered by Hurricane Idalia this week may not have expected another threat — that floodwaters could cause their cars to suddenly burst into flames.

Yet that's exactly what happened when two electric vehicles caught fire after being submerged in saltwater churned up by the storm. Firefighters in Palm Harbor, Florida, cited the incidents, both of which involved Teslas, in warning owners that their rechargeable car batteries could combust if exposed to saltwater.

"If you own a hybrid or electric vehicle that has come into contact with saltwater due to recent flooding within the last 24 hours, it is crucial to relocate the vehicle from your garage without delay," the department said in a Facebook post. "Saltwater exposure can trigger combustion in lithium-ion batteries. If possible, transfer your vehicle to higher ground."

The warning also applies to electric golf carts, scooters and bicycles, with lithium-ion batteries potentially sparking a fire when they get wet. More specifically, salt residue remains after the water dries out and can create "bridges" between the battery's cells, potentially creating electrical connections that can spark a fire.

Comment Re:Wow (Score 2) 163

The trouble is half your staff won’t show up period without a mandate. You get near zero levels of in person meetings because teams simply don’t meet.

Management of our dev and test teams put on a 2 day/week mandate in Jan after 6 months of trying to coax them in organically. At the peak they got 50% coming in 1 or 2 days a week but about 1/4 had not worked a day in the office since March 2020! No doubt they planned to keep that up indefinitely.

Comment Re:OR (Score 1) 245

Sure, but all this means is that we effectively establish a range where shale gas and oil are viable. Say for arguements sake that is the equivalent of $80-$120 USD/barrel. Unless alternative energy can meet the lower end of that range, factoring in all costs (meeting peak load, base load, etc. dealing with power storage), then fossil fuels win. As costs go up, alternative sources are more viable but so is wildcatting and new technology to extract new shale deposits. You get a boom of drilling, then prices drop back down. The whole idea of peak oil forcing change goes out the window in this scenario. Or at least gets delayed a few decades.

Comment Re:OR (Score 2) 245

I think you don't want to believe. The reality is that unless the anti-fracking lobby limits it's production, natural gas from shale deposits will be very abundant for a very long time. Not only that, shale oil deposits are massive as well. Likely big enough to push Peak Oil out a few decades in North America.

Shale of the century
The “golden age of gas” could be cleaner than greens think
http://www.economist.com/node/21556242

Comment Re:System is Working (Score 1) 110

Not really working the way you think it is.

The proximate cause for the demise of C-30 is not opposition or privacy commissioner complaints. C-30 died because there is a reasonably large subgroup of the Conservative party base which has Libertarian sentiments and opposes the invasion of privacy potential of C-30. If there was no strong opposition from their base, then C-30 would go through, just like C-11 is.

John Ibbitson: Why Stephen Harper always listens to his base
"According the Globe's Ottawa Bureau chief, the Prime Minister's mind is often swayed by the rumblings of the Tory base. And in the case if Bill C30, their displeasure means the legislation will never see the light of day."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/video/video-john-ibbitson-why-stephen-harper-always-listens-to-his-base/article2434452/

Comment Re:A New Election (Score 1) 401

Was the outcome altered though? Proof please? You assume it was, you don't know it was.

There certainly should be a criminal investigation and if any laws were broken, those responsible should be held to account. Unless there is proof that the leadership of the Conservatives directed this action, that is the end of the matter. If there is no such proof, you are not going to get a new general election out of this. No way.

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