I wonder - is this anti-Chinese propaganda then? https://www.youtube.com/result... (compliation of burning Chines EV's)

I like EV's but there seems to be a disconnect between your claims of European Luxury level design, the best battery technology, and those burny things.

Sounds almost like the Socialist Snow Plows the far right wants to get rid of.

I don't know if it is something actual or just propaganda, but on Youtube, there are a lot of Chinese EV's catching fire, with videos showing it.

The amount of energy stored in the batteries is pretty significant, and unless properly engineered, likes out of its container and gets burny. Just like say, the bad engineering on the old Ford Pinto that made it like to burn up.

My guess is that if the Chinese cars are going to be sold in the USA, they'll need to be heavily scrutinized and perhaps altered in order to pass our safety regulations.

That guy has no clue WTF he's saying, announcing or giving a speech about if it isn't on a teleprompter or big print, multi-page notes he's given.

You can readily see this any time he dares to go off script and potentially make "them" mad and get into trouble...

Well then they can't have their story. And draining the battery that far is the petrofuel equivalent of running out of gas, and blaming the manufacturer.

Isn't it weird how electrical vehicles are affected by cold, but petrofueld are completely unaffected by it?

Tents and gas flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Of course, you can always build a fire under it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

All sarcasm aside, gasoline and diesel engines also have problems in the cold. So if an EV does, it's because of the cold, not some inherent issue with EV's.

If people don't like EV's for some reason, that's fine. But just like the hand wringing when an EV catches fire, Petrofueld vehicles catch fire every day, and no one bats an eye. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?... A lot of energy in batteries, and hella energy in petrofuels, and they get spunky every once in a while.P And a big part of the fix for both, rather than starting fires under the crankcase, is very similar in each case. Plug the thing in. In cold places like Alaska, parking meters have electrical outlets, battery and crankcase heaters, and you plug 'em in and keep them warm. An EV the same, you can even keep it topped off plugged into an outlet at home.

And well, it's an organic product too....cows are carbon based life units.

So, hell, you're checking two boxes right there.

And it isn't like anyone is forcing the vegans to buy a leather option that may be offered....

So...why again did they do away with the leather option?

EV sales over the past year or so have slumped

You're just making all that up.

No, not making it up.

CBS: EV sales down 7.4% this year so far. (although hybrid sales are up some).

And here, you can scan through it, is a CNBC "marathon" about EV sales down in the US.

(The first episode in that marathon is only about 17 min).

Just do a little YT search, and you'll see this is a common them from several news sources even the left would admit is reliable.

No normal EV owners I know have put any maintenance on their car beyond the first roadworthy (due here after 4 years for a new car).

I'm not familiar with the term "the first roadworthy"....what does this mean?

We call those Mall Queens. It is exceptionally obvious with so many of these trucks. Because using a truck for work leaves evidence.

Even my Jeep, while I have it detailed regularly, bears evidence of it's use. Mud, the occasional scratch that needs buffed out.

Pristine trailer hitches, no scratches on the chrome, and beds without scratches or dents, either, on the mall queens.

Having the pickup is a statement of their patriotism, and it must be shiny and polished, pristine as their pure heart and fealty.

I was really pissed when they quit making Ford Ranger trucks in the US, and even the Chevy S-10, once a compact truck, got bloated. After coming back, they are a midsized truck now. Which means that they are what a F350 used to be, in general.

This happens so often to vehicles due to marketing in large part - the 'ers. Bigger faster, wider and so on.

You might add something like the normal Jeeps to that mix. Some places, like where I live have pretty wild swings in weather, and there's a reason that our roads are busy with them. A bog standard Jeep Compass or the quirky Renegade is pretty inexpensive by today's standards, and will handle the swings.

For many, the Pick-um-up is a statement of patriotism. I kid you not. These folk find their expression of patriotism in that big pickup, and the prices have risen because of that. But there's trouble in the land of Jingo.

You can easily spend 150K on that shiny new thing.

It is a tad jarring to see someone in one of them who obviously doesn't spend much on clothing, grooming, or their teeth, hopping out of their 10 mpg pretend monster truck. Meanwhile, My Jeep Trailhawk version costs nowhere near as much, gets between 28 to 30 mpg fills up for a third of the cost - They obviously aren't the wealthiest demographic. And it goes places they can't. I even knew one guy some years back that had a daily driver of a Ford 350 with dually rears and a 5th wheel in the truck bed. He had no trailer, it was all patriotshow.

You'll see these truck parked outside of old junky mobile homes that were built a long time ago, and might be exhibiting proton decay at this point.

10 year loans is one of the ways they "afford" these things. My guess is they also use a credit card for every 140-200 dollar fill-up, depending on if it's gas or diesel. Low easy payments for the rest of their lives. Sorta. P But the prices have reached a point where the hillbilly struggles to make the payments on that 10 year mortgage, and what is the point of having a prtriotmobile for 10 years, when you need a new and bigger one every 4 years.

I disagree. I was just having a discussion with my dad about this yesterday. As much as the marketeers keep telling us they make SUVs because that's what people want to buy, every time I go to the grocery store, half the vehicles in the parking lot are cars. At least in the New England area, there are still tons of cars everywhere -- but they are all foreign brands.

This may indeed be a regional thing.

I live in the south, and when I go to the grocery store, the parking lot is filled with trucks and SUVs....cars by far are the minority.

I've never owned anything but 2-seater sports cars all my life....and trust me, my car quickly gets lost in a parking lot., especially if I try to park near the door of the store.

I tend to park further out in the lot so as not to be surrounded by trucks that might not see my car and plow into it (has happened before).

>> are pre-disposed to liking them

And you know this how? Maybe most people will think EV's make better financial sense, they like a quiet ride with instant acceleration, they are tired of gas stations. Any number of reasons.

Well, considering that EV sales over the past year or so have slumped....and EV inventories piling up on dealer lots tend to indicate that the EV market is saturated at this point.

The people that want them, have them...the rest of the US really isn't providing a demand for them....at least nowhere near what the current US federal administration was counting on....

The feds are pushing US car makers to ramp EV production and they're all finding that the current US demand is just not there