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Comment Re:How To Accomplish The "Elop Effect" (Score 3, Insightful) 144

Never mind the accolades Ahonen has received over the years, nor his lectures at Oxford, nor his authoritative books, nor his amazingly accurate record of predictions in the Mobile Phone industry, year after year, nor his personal network of staffers at almost every Mobile Phone company and provider in the world... nor how many times he made other supposed expert analysts look like fools (ZDnet, Howard Forums, etc. etc.)

Never mind that, because very little of it is actually true.
For the record of his predictions, here's one.
Sorry, but Tomi is really a tedious moron who passes himself off as an expert to gullible people.

Comment Re: It shoud have suprised no one (Score 1) 144

Funny how they were still selling quite a lot of them until Elop came around.

And RIM were selling quite a lot of Blackberries until it was too late.

FYI - All those Symbian devs and their Symbian apps had a migration path from Symbian to Maemo/MeeGo.

That's what the powerpoint said. In practice, there were... issues.

Also Nokia didn't have the same issue BB had in having a central network that was essential to the platform and have a major crash that took weeks to fix and caused headaches for their customers.

Nokia had another issue: being the company that allowed the N97 to be released. That was in 2009, years after iPhone was on the market. All that happened after was, in essence, karmic justice.

In 2010 MeeGo wasn't out. It was just about to be released when Elop wrote the "burning platform" memo; and during the presentation to the press he stood up on stage and said "We're not doing this; look I have another one running Windows Phone and that is our future" - intentially sabotaging it before it even hit market.

Your time window for "just about to be released" must stretch for half a year.
And, I'm afraid, your description of a presentation has no basis in documented reality. It was known since February that Nokia is pivoting towards Windows Phone and everybody knew that the N9 was a dead end. Moreover, it wasn't ever meant to be a proper MeeGo device. It was fucked up by internal politics long before Elop came on stage.

Yet, as others have pointed out, with no marketing the MeeGo Phone outsold the Lumias wherever they were both sold in the same markets - and not by small margins - by 3:1 ratios.

I'm sorry to see you believe in a myth with no credible evidence whatsoever.

Comment Re: It shoud have suprised no one (Score 2, Informative) 144

Just before the first Meego phone (N900) launched, Elop took over. It was killed without even given a chance. To answer your question, that is why Meego never competed with Android and the iOS.

Huh? The N900 was released in 2009. The N9 program was launched some time before that, and the device was released, after all, in late 2011.

Right as Elop took over, Nokia took a 180 turn away from Meego. They spent 3, 4 years completely redeveloping their processes, completely revamping their developers, wasting countless resources that were Meego-based, just so they could put Windows Phone on their hardware.

What alternative timeline you live in? The turn was announced on February 2011. The first Lumia was released in November the same year.

Comment Re:Stop being ignorant yahoos (Score 1) 729

You can follow a workflow of painstakingly designing and documenting every commit in the development head, but I don't think every project does. And the commit in question was indeed found to be premature and removed by one of the developers, well before it became a front-page story for the hate brigade.

Comment Re:not quite, see the design document on the wiki (Score 1) 729

The post you linked to said they aren't ONLY planning to remove middle-click paste.
The design document on the Gnome wiki goes into further detail about what they are thinking of doing with middle-click instead.

It does not go into any detail on that, yet.

Another developer in the same thread said this IS the right time to voice objections to removing middle-click yank. It's not out of thin air. Middle-click was already removed, then it was decided to wait on removing it until the new middle click replaces it. The new middle click menu is still being designed.

Can you point at exactly the instances where anybody remotely relevant to GNOME development is publicly proposing the things you have mentioned? All factual evidence so far is a reverted commit.

Comment Stop being ignorant yahoos (Score 1) 729

Just to prevent as much tedious unnecessary rageposting as I can, here's a mailing list post from one of the developers:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2013-September/msg00065.html

See, this whole story is blown out of thin air. Almost everybody commenting to this Slashdot story have shown themselves to be knee-jerk idiots with no capacity for critical thought. YOU CAN GO HOME NOW. Or better, finally fuck off and forget about all things GNOME. Both you and the GNOME project will be better off this way. Ah well, who am I kidding, this stupid shit has been going on ever since GNOME (and KDE, for its own part) was released.

Sci-Fi

It Takes 2.99 Gigajoules To Vaporize a Human Body 272

Have you ever wondered how much energy is needed to power a phaser set to kill? A trio of researchers at the University of Leicester did, so they ran some tests and found out it would take roughly 2.99 GJ to vaporize an average-sized adult human body. Quoting: "First, consider the true vaporization – the complete separation of all atoms within a molecule – of water. With a simple molecular structure containing an oxygen atom bonded to two hydrogen atoms, it takes serious energy to break these bonds. In fact, it takes 460 kilojoules of energy to break just one mole of oxygen-hydrogen bonds — around the same energy that a 2,000-pound car going 70 miles per hour on the highway has in potential. And that's just 18 grams of water! So as you can see, it would take a gargantuan amount of energy to separate all the atoms in even a small glass of water — especially if that glass of water is your analog for a person. The human body is a bit more complicated than a glass of water, but it still vaporizes like one. And thanks to our spies spread across scientific organizations, we now have the energy required to turn a human into an atomic soup, to break all the atomic bonds in a body. According to the captured study, it takes around three gigajoules of death-ray to entirely vaporize a person — enough to completely melt 5,000 pounds of steel or simulate a lightning bolt."

Comment Re:Mir is fascinating... but not in a good way. (Score 1) 205

C++ is a superset of C. It includes all the functionality of C, along with an implimentation of OOP. The low level stuff is there. The problem is most FOSS contributors are apparently dinosaurs who never learned how to program in object-oriented fashion.

They did. They also know that C++ is a bad language for that, so much so that programming object-oriented constructs in C is better.

Comment Re: and there goes the Nokia Android (Score 1) 535

Sorry but if you knew anything about Symbian and smartphone development and Nokia processes you would know that at release minus six months the final hardware and software was basically available.

If by "basically available" you mean being able to boot up and run a few carefully chosen smoke tests, then yeah. As a product ready to go to market, no way in hell.

Regardless, the "oh shit moment" leading to cancelling MeeGo happened some weeks before the announcement, and it was caused by the fact that no matter what shape the N9 was in, the actual MeeGo platform to be developed for years to come was in total shambles and not scheduled to be ready until late 2011 at the earliest.

Comment Re:and there goes the Nokia Android (Score 1) 535

Meego was another Maemo, not WebOS, it have its own lineage as example.

I used WebOS in a figurative sense: an also-ran mobile OS that was too little, too late.
They muddled the lineage by banding up with Intel, meaning that the platform was going to be rebased on Moblin.

Was sabotaged by Symbian fans inside Nokia first, then the days before it was released Elop said that it had no future, cut all future hopes for development for the platform, and released just one phone with it, just because already made it.

Revisionism. The strategy change announcement was made half a year before the N9 was released. And well before Elop, it was decided internally that the software on the N9 is a one-off with no future, because MeeGo proper was being developed in parallel, with a late 2011 shipping date in mind (yes, that's when they shipped the Lumia 800 after the big turnaround). See, Nokia was really big on nonsensical parallel development back then. Anyone who knows the development story of the N900 and the N9 can confirm that.

Is even against that that sold pretty well.

This is a myth created by Tomi Ahonen and a few commenters on a tech blog.

the Windows 7.x phones that Microsoft killed before they come out to the market saying that they will have no future neither (but most people that buys windows phone only hears windows phone, not version, so even with that had sales).

You mean the phones that are still supported and getting newly released apps? Keep telling that to people stuck on buggy Gingerbread phones.

Comment Re:Beware of Microsofties bearing gifts (Score 2) 535

Taking Nokia board's intent at face value, Elop was invited to do something to help the situation. Once they'd decided to concentrate on Windows Phone, they became so dominant on the platform that the other WP OEMs started having second thoughts. So Nokia's devices unit became a more and more attractive purchase target as it went along. Keeping the R&D diverse might have been a good hedge against that, but it does not look like a good business strategy to me: after all, companies exist to make money, not to shit into their books for the specific purpose of staying independent.

Selling the unit to Microsoft might have been the plan B from the beginning, too. But I think it's naive to assume that Nokia's board and shareholders fell victim to the evil scheming M$.

Comment Re:and there goes the Nokia Android (Score 3, Interesting) 535

MeeGo was another WebOS: late, buggy, and basically going nowhere with the organization they had and the cannon ball of Intel shackled to their leg.

Nokia would have made a glorious last stand with it, open source geeks would support them (never mind an occasional grumble about the bugs, wanton platform changes, and closed components, what's this between friends), but in the end it wouldn't bring bread to the table without substantial cultural changes and a lot of development. Yes, I'm familiar with The Legend of Spectacular N9 Sales.

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