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Comment Re: It shoud have suprised no one (Score 2, Informative) 144

Just before the first Meego phone (N900) launched, Elop took over. It was killed without even given a chance. To answer your question, that is why Meego never competed with Android and the iOS.

Huh? The N900 was released in 2009. The N9 program was launched some time before that, and the device was released, after all, in late 2011.

Right as Elop took over, Nokia took a 180 turn away from Meego. They spent 3, 4 years completely redeveloping their processes, completely revamping their developers, wasting countless resources that were Meego-based, just so they could put Windows Phone on their hardware.

What alternative timeline you live in? The turn was announced on February 2011. The first Lumia was released in November the same year.

Comment Re:Stop being ignorant yahoos (Score 1) 729

You can follow a workflow of painstakingly designing and documenting every commit in the development head, but I don't think every project does. And the commit in question was indeed found to be premature and removed by one of the developers, well before it became a front-page story for the hate brigade.

Comment Re:not quite, see the design document on the wiki (Score 1) 729

The post you linked to said they aren't ONLY planning to remove middle-click paste.
The design document on the Gnome wiki goes into further detail about what they are thinking of doing with middle-click instead.

It does not go into any detail on that, yet.

Another developer in the same thread said this IS the right time to voice objections to removing middle-click yank. It's not out of thin air. Middle-click was already removed, then it was decided to wait on removing it until the new middle click replaces it. The new middle click menu is still being designed.

Can you point at exactly the instances where anybody remotely relevant to GNOME development is publicly proposing the things you have mentioned? All factual evidence so far is a reverted commit.

Comment Stop being ignorant yahoos (Score 1) 729

Just to prevent as much tedious unnecessary rageposting as I can, here's a mailing list post from one of the developers:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2013-September/msg00065.html

See, this whole story is blown out of thin air. Almost everybody commenting to this Slashdot story have shown themselves to be knee-jerk idiots with no capacity for critical thought. YOU CAN GO HOME NOW. Or better, finally fuck off and forget about all things GNOME. Both you and the GNOME project will be better off this way. Ah well, who am I kidding, this stupid shit has been going on ever since GNOME (and KDE, for its own part) was released.

Comment Re:Mir is fascinating... but not in a good way. (Score 1) 205

C++ is a superset of C. It includes all the functionality of C, along with an implimentation of OOP. The low level stuff is there. The problem is most FOSS contributors are apparently dinosaurs who never learned how to program in object-oriented fashion.

They did. They also know that C++ is a bad language for that, so much so that programming object-oriented constructs in C is better.

Comment Re: and there goes the Nokia Android (Score 1) 535

Sorry but if you knew anything about Symbian and smartphone development and Nokia processes you would know that at release minus six months the final hardware and software was basically available.

If by "basically available" you mean being able to boot up and run a few carefully chosen smoke tests, then yeah. As a product ready to go to market, no way in hell.

Regardless, the "oh shit moment" leading to cancelling MeeGo happened some weeks before the announcement, and it was caused by the fact that no matter what shape the N9 was in, the actual MeeGo platform to be developed for years to come was in total shambles and not scheduled to be ready until late 2011 at the earliest.

Comment Re:and there goes the Nokia Android (Score 1) 535

Meego was another Maemo, not WebOS, it have its own lineage as example.

I used WebOS in a figurative sense: an also-ran mobile OS that was too little, too late.
They muddled the lineage by banding up with Intel, meaning that the platform was going to be rebased on Moblin.

Was sabotaged by Symbian fans inside Nokia first, then the days before it was released Elop said that it had no future, cut all future hopes for development for the platform, and released just one phone with it, just because already made it.

Revisionism. The strategy change announcement was made half a year before the N9 was released. And well before Elop, it was decided internally that the software on the N9 is a one-off with no future, because MeeGo proper was being developed in parallel, with a late 2011 shipping date in mind (yes, that's when they shipped the Lumia 800 after the big turnaround). See, Nokia was really big on nonsensical parallel development back then. Anyone who knows the development story of the N900 and the N9 can confirm that.

Is even against that that sold pretty well.

This is a myth created by Tomi Ahonen and a few commenters on a tech blog.

the Windows 7.x phones that Microsoft killed before they come out to the market saying that they will have no future neither (but most people that buys windows phone only hears windows phone, not version, so even with that had sales).

You mean the phones that are still supported and getting newly released apps? Keep telling that to people stuck on buggy Gingerbread phones.

Comment Re:Beware of Microsofties bearing gifts (Score 2) 535

Taking Nokia board's intent at face value, Elop was invited to do something to help the situation. Once they'd decided to concentrate on Windows Phone, they became so dominant on the platform that the other WP OEMs started having second thoughts. So Nokia's devices unit became a more and more attractive purchase target as it went along. Keeping the R&D diverse might have been a good hedge against that, but it does not look like a good business strategy to me: after all, companies exist to make money, not to shit into their books for the specific purpose of staying independent.

Selling the unit to Microsoft might have been the plan B from the beginning, too. But I think it's naive to assume that Nokia's board and shareholders fell victim to the evil scheming M$.

Comment Re:and there goes the Nokia Android (Score 3, Interesting) 535

MeeGo was another WebOS: late, buggy, and basically going nowhere with the organization they had and the cannon ball of Intel shackled to their leg.

Nokia would have made a glorious last stand with it, open source geeks would support them (never mind an occasional grumble about the bugs, wanton platform changes, and closed components, what's this between friends), but in the end it wouldn't bring bread to the table without substantial cultural changes and a lot of development. Yes, I'm familiar with The Legend of Spectacular N9 Sales.

Comment Re:I miss Scroogle :( (Score 2) 135

That's funny, but PGP was designed with the assumption that communications and email storage can easily be snooped on. It's an end-to-end scheme, and so is S/MIME. The security of both is as good as the encryption algorithm and your and your peers' procedures for key management and exchange.

If a government (to me, the U.S. government agencies are agents of a foreign state) wants the contents, they need to go after you, rather than installing blanket wiretaps at your service providers and silencing their staff with a secret gag order.

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