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Comment People can't behave What price skilled moderators? (Score 1) 385

It's a sad comment that the discussion stands between free speech and some semblance of order, Once long ago it looked like online discussion would evolve a culture of netiquette and civilized discourse that would let us have free speech and sane discussions, But I saw, even amongst my own circle, people who liked nothing more than to troll a discussion to breaking point & get out the popcorn.

Second best would be to have good, sane, wise, skilled moderators who understand the difference between an unpleasant opinion and bad manners, and can moderate the latter whilst allowing the former. Unfortunately anyone with that skillset is sadly wasted moderating online discussion, and would be best suited to negotiating peace in war-torn parts of the world.

There are a few pockets left of the old style, on discussion forums where the topics unite more than divide, and people whose commitment to the subject matter keeps them willing to do the thankless and souldestroying work of moderating the immoderate. I fully expect to spend my retirement reading through these and reminiscing about the good old days of free speech & proper manners.

Submission + - "ThisIsWoke" Social Media Campaign Turns Out To Be A UK Counterterrorism Program (middleeasteye.net) 1

dryriver writes: An account called "ThisIsWoke" has been posting meme-like posts, videos and slogans on its accounts on Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/this... ) and Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/thisi... ) using a great big "WOKE" logo. Middle East Eye has discovered that this account is actually part of a UK Home Office Office for Security and Counter-Terrorism counterterrorism programme: A Facebook page and Instagram feed with the name This Is Woke describes itself as the work of a “media/news company” that is engaging “in critical discussions around Muslim identity, tradition and reform”. In fact, it was created by a media company on behalf of the Office for Security and Counter-Terrorism (OSCT) at the UK Home Office. The OSCT is refusing to disclose information about the network, however, and will not explain the reason it was created, claiming that to do so would “prejudice the national security of the UK”. This Is Woke draws upon the popular expression “stay woke”, a call — originally African-American — to remain aware of social and racial justice issues.

Launched earlier this year, the network features videos with titles such as "A trillion ton iceberg has broken off Antarctica" and "Millions of pangolins are hunted each year". Alongside them are other videos with titles such as "It’s time to hold extremism to account for terrorism, not Islam". This video went viral, being viewed 1.7 million times. It also features videos of short panel discussions, with four young people sitting on a sofa debating subjects such as "Will we all become vegan?" and "Are dating apps the way forward?", interspersed among these are videos with titles such as "What does wearing a hijab mean to you?"

One discussion video on the This Is Woke Facebook page is entitled "What is fake news?" The four young participants offer contributions such as "online, we can never know who the source is" and "we have to train ourselves against what’s going on out there". They are then filmed on the street, conducting vox pops among members of the public and asking them: "How do you know the news you hear is real?" The content of the This Is Woke Instagram feed includes quotations from Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela and one from Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second Islamic caliph — “sometimes the people with the worst past, create the best future”. There are also photographs of smiling women in hijabs.

The content of the Facebook page and Instagram feed was created for the OSCT by a London-based communications company, Breakthrough Media, several people with knowledge of the project have confirmed.

When Middle East Eye asked the Home Office for information about the project, under the terms of the UK’s Freedom of Information Act, the OSCT confirmed that it held such material but refused to disclose any, citing the section of the act that concerns national security.

While acknowledging that there was a public interest in transparency surrounding such projects, the OSCT said that national security concerns were “of overriding importance”.

Disclosure of information about This Is Woke “would open up detailed information about organisations and individuals who are engaged in the delivery of, and who are supporting activities to prevent terrorism”, the OSCT said.

Comment Re:"Minke Whales" ?? (Score 1) 214

Very interesting, I'm a native norwegian speaker with an interest in whaling history, and the minke theory jars with way whales have traditionally been named.

Generally, as you pointed out, the naming is practical and not derived from a person or event, thus right whale (Retthval) is the right one to catch, sperm whale has a head full of semen-like oil etc.

The story of the minke whale would make more sense if seen in this framework as in norwegian the word "minke" is a verb "to lessen or reduce" thus someone mistaking the lesser rorqual (vågehval, literally "daring whale" for it's impudent tendency to come into fjords within sight of the coastal whalers) for the right whale, which is a physically similar but much larger fin whale, might be ridiculed for how his whale had "shrunk"... The story is attributed to a diffuse member of Svend Foyn's crew, but this is roughly eqivalent to something being an Abe Lincoln quote, as Foyn was probably the most famous whaler that ever lived. (at least to the norwegians)

The choice of minke whale was one I came across during the 1992 "No Way Norway" Greenpeace anti-whaling campaign, where I raised the issue of nomenclature and the explanation was given that minke whale was a name that stuck more readily in people's minds and was more easily identifiable, containing the word "whale" and not the diminutive "lesser", also "minke" is cuter than "rorqual"

Mhe reason I say it is japanese is because afaik, (I don't speak japanese) minkku kujira is the official name in japanese.

So I may be wrong, but the idea is certainly not preposterous.

Comment Re:"Minke Whales" ?? (Score 1) 214

I believe you're sincere, AC, but the norwegian name for this whale (Balaenoptera bonaerensis) is "Vågehval" or more specifically "Sørlig Vågehval"

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

I have no idea where the minke whale fallacy originated but no-one in Norway uses the term "Minkehval".
So whilst the name may now have become valid in daily english usage, it is still technically incorrect.

Comment Hindsight (Score 2) 197

Every time this comes up I'm struck by the same few thoughts:

If we hadn't succumbed to the commercial desire to mine our real identities and instead had stayed with the early internet's pseudonymity culture, we'd be more able to isolate any online abuse from our real lives.

What happens online should stay online, but this now seems impossible.

The troll is an individual, who wields their (largely illusory) power through manipulative skill and sheer determination to annoy and frustrate. It seems unfair that the victim, also an approximately equal individual on the receiving end should be allowed such disproportionate means of retaliation. Is one against one so unfair?

I know, the world don't work like that, but it should.

Comment Whatever happened to free? (Score 2) 82

Time & time again I experience this: I have a task, I look for a free opensource solution, I find one, only to discover that it's essentially bait for a commercial version, and it is nigh-on impossible to get it to work without coughing up for the pay version, which is almost always ridiculously overpriced, and to add insult to injury, the broken version is covered in ads for the commercial one.

I've wasted my time, the company will never get my money because they pissed me off with a broken "free" version which appears only to exist to satisfy the license of the source they based their product on, and is published in the most obfuscated and undocumented way they can get away with.

I'd be happy with something that worked with a given feature set, and offered more functionality for pay, I'd pay for that. This is not the same as figuring out how to cripple the most core feature in order to force people to buy...

This is not the opensource we were looking for.

Comment streisand etc. (Score 4, Insightful) 107

Siemens claims they don't want their reputation risked by using the motor this way, and threaten to go to the press over it.
Both UK & French authorities have signed off that they find the safety aspect acceptable.

I can't see how this can do anything but harm Siemens' reputation, and the sudden day-of-departure withdrawal of consent stinks a long way.

Some say Siemens is a very risk-averse & conservative company, and it is this that is driving their "better safe than sorry" attitude..

I don't buy it, and neither should you.

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