I think our message, at its root, has to be around open source.

I love seeing how Miller then proceeds to engage in all kinds of semantic acrobatics to talk about software freedom while trying to avoid the term "free software". People think RMS/FSF may be fanatics but here we have another case, someone who fanatically avoids using the best phrase/term for what he's trying to convey. I get it, you try to disassociate with FSF guys, but let's be honest. The benefit Miller talks about does not come from having some "source code available" but from from the four basic freedoms of free software.

(and again, how do we avoid the "glazed looks" when you try to explain the concept of "source (and object) code" to the average person? Just use the free software phrase, no one is going to sue you for that!)

Seriously, guys... are you proposing to put beta-lactamase producing bacteria in the guts and expecting this to be harmless, that somehow the beta-lactamase gene won't be passed to some staphyllococcus or E. coli..? REALLY??

There are some extremely stupid things, and then, this. You can't make this stuff up.

If the study conclusions were true, then Paraguay, Argentina, and Uruguay would be rife with cancers, which is clearly not the case. All three countries are producers, consumers and exporters of beef.

Here (Paraguay) we're more at risk of developing cancers due to engine pollution and viruses such as HPV.

The original article's writing is notoriously poor and ambiguous.
What is "malicious image file"? Image as in JPG file? or as in an ISO / OS file?
Outside politics (and maybe economics) journalists really don't have a clue...

5% of their time? One delivery? I could see if they asked them to spend a WHOLE month, but it is one delivery. Maybe 2 hours. Out of 160 in a month, or less than 1% of their time in that month.

Factor in that they have to clock in, then pick food from producer, then deliver it to customer, then return... these add up quickly. They are not on the road. They are just doing one dash in a city with heavy traffic. I'm assuming a whole workday lost, hence 5%.

If prima donna $400K can't buckle in and do a McDonalds delivery once a month, then perhaps he should find a new job.

Maybe he can. But my point was that some people don't want to. Such "prima donna", let's say that studied Computer Science so that, among other things, specifically he wouldn't have to do these tasks. And yes, such person will find a new job, one with bosses whith actual functioning brains.

Saw this post's comments (the dupe) and the previous story (the original one), and it is appalling how tone deaf are most people concerning career motivations. They fall all over themselves on how good dogfooding is, on how arrogant are those people who said that they didn't sign up for that particular job, how they should work for real once in a while... you get the idea.

No, this is not good. This is stupid. First, it requires people to do it once a month. That is roughly 5% of that employee's time. I think that's too much. Might work if reduced; once every six months, or once a year, or something similar. But using 5% of an engineer's time to do deliverys is not the best use of his/her time.

Second, there are career motivators both positive and negative. "I want to work in IT because I love to use computers and do coding" is a positive motivator.

"I want to work in IT because I do not ever ever want to perform a delivery in my life" is a negative motivator. And it's quite powerful.

You can wax as poetic as you want about how this initiative might be good, blah blah... but you failed to understand your workforce. Going against negative motivators could be done, but if you overdo it, people start going away.

There are other ways to do dogfooding which would be more acceptable. Attach a GoPro cam to a delivery, make the footage available to devs so they could see how the app is used, something like that. But this is just not very bright.

I appreciate the changes but ... how about going back to being a decent GUI WIMP app with pull-down menus? Something that does not require us to use the mouse or to hunt down for how to reach some features? Be a decent Windows app. I understand that the riboon is the distinctive feature of Office, but why can't they offer pull-down menus as an alternate option?

No. That GitHub page doesn't even answer the question: What should I do to restore the old UI? I have to figure it out. No instructions at all, at least I cannot see them. And then, anything that forces you to edit CSS to get what you want is awful. I might do it, but for all practical purposes and for most users this is no solution at all.

Thanks. But it's no solution if I have to do extensive modifications to custom style sheets and other modifications. I could just apply this fix, too.

The issue is that I cannot go back to the previous UI. There's no easily applicable setting or plugin, unless you hack CSS stuff and similar. Again, thanks, but this is no solution at all.

I used to use Chrome/Chromium, but switched to Firefox when they began to ship their Quantum engine update, which I liked. Now I'm at version 91.1esr with that stupid Proton UI with no chance at all of reverting to the previous UI (even the about: settings for doing that are gone). I find the new UI annoying to the point of making me consider to switch to another browser again. So yes, I'd say that inconsiderate UI changes are a good reason why many people leave Firefox.

Of course, why wouldn't they require their employees to be shiny, happy people ...?

"Restore previous session" is no longer directly available from the hamburguer menu.

Now it's hidden behind History. They managed to complicate it a little further. Real champs!!

This is nothing new. I remember that some people about 20 years ago pushed the Hacktivismo Enhanced Software License Agreement as an alternative to the GPL, without much success. There is an unrelated but telling quote by OpenBSD guy Theo de Raadt, said at about the same time:

But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all (be they people or companies), for any purpose they wish to use it, including modification, use, peeing on, or even integration into baby mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped on Australia.

IMHO this is "ethical source" movement is extreme naïveté or political correctness gone awry, with an extra dosis of arrogance, and nothing else.

A good option is Double Commander. Cross-platform, free software, fast and lightweight.