I post anonymous because my limit of 10 posts a day is reached. While you, I am sure, are only posting the kinds of messages that are well received by the /crowd, the groupthink shit, mine are generally voted up and down many times over and over and over, and generally those who don't like the message have more moderation points, however this is done, and thus I can either post as an AC or I can post from my second account.

Are you satisfied with the explanation, enterprise boy?

As to accusing me on 'sucking RMS' whatever, why don't you go fuck yourself.

I am quite anti-RMS on the issue of proprietary software and I have comments to prove it, you prick.

Oracle is just a metaphor, same as MS, it doesn't matter which one it is.

Why should one STOP hating on the competition even? There is no rational reason NOT to hate 'competition', but it's not about competition.

In fact Windows XP or 2000 are pretty decent systems, and so what? The hate is not about their products, it's about them as entities. The companies, their behavior, their entitlement. They have the money and so they are 'entitled' to waltz into anything with their bribes, and that's what they do.

Bribes and politics, that's what these guys are involved in. Products? Products don't matter. It's the companies and their behavior.

This is not even about free source or open source, it's about these particular entities - companies.

MS, Oracle - those are just two. I don't need to start a list here, it will not be too short unfortunately. Whatever you have to say, keep it.

this place is quite silent already. There are no voices of reason and the rest don't matter anyway.

They are a patent whore.
They are a whore in general, whoring themselves out in any large company with so called 'technical consultants', who are in reality sales whores, just pushing Oracle for everything, and apparently the management was always happy to buy yet another piece of shit Oracle product (Aqualogic, as a great example of real real fecal matter, the kind that makes goatse and tubgirl look and feel like those who OCD over microbes on their hands).

It's disgusting from start to finish, what can I say. I always recommend something else.

I always recognize the word boobs.

You type boobs in any font, it's like I have super powers.

Boobs. B00Bs. 80085. Anything you do - I recognize it immediately.

Don't know about other word, but that one just strikes me as very recognizable.

just outsource the entire IRS IT stuff to India, I think that'll fix everything in a hurry.

Ford is a known figure working with a new product at the time, what do you know about steel mills or bakeries?

Ford was a well known figure, he started a first mass production facility in USA that produced cars anyway and he was a real capitalist, reacting to the market regulations, which were telling him - get the talent and keep it and you'll make more profit. He did make more profit. 1 year after he changed the conditions on his assembly lines he made TWICE the number of cars and lowered the prices further, allowing his employees to buy a car with 4 months of salary saved (1.25 ounces/week, that works out to 5 ounces per month and 20 ounces per 4 months, which incidentally is about the same amount of gold you need to buy a good new car today). You see, in real money prices are stable. In real money prices are even going down, because you CAN buy a car with much less than 20 ounces of gold! Imagine that. One can buy a car with less than 10 ounces of gold, I think that's pretty amazing and shows that mass production and increased efficiencies due to competition do work wonders. Now, saying that nobody else would have similar conditions is just not true, the market TRIES all sorts of things. But what is important in the market is what wins, not all the possibilities that are tried. Do you know why a company can sell a car for only 10 ounces of gold today? It's because of the capital, which allows acquiring better and better tools, so that fewer and fewer people are needed to produce the same unit of work, and a much more complex unit of work, cars are stuffed with technology nobody even thought of in the beginning of the last century, from computers to TVs to GPS navigation to electronic transmission and ignition and all sorts of improvements and innovations and inventions. Why is this all possible? It's because people are trying to make a buck. Trying to generate profit leads people to competition and building better mousetraps. Gov't gets in the way and destroys the economy by distorting that process, and now some people think they need to get rid of CAPITALISM? The system that allowed the cars to fall in REAL money by a factor of 2 over the century? That's how blind and ignorant people are. What they need to do is get their freedoms back and starts more businesses with those freedoms and hire some people. And no, nobody forces anybody to accept a job with terrible conditions. IF a person cannot FIND a job with conditions any better than his current employment, then he should be THANKFUL that his current employer even provides him with that opportunity. People don't understand the markets or effect of governments at all.

They funded this research. Have you funded a research?

Addressed this many times over - Henry Ford was as anti-union as I am. However he had to deal with MARKET regulations In 1914 Henry Ford increased the productivity of his workers by spending enough capital to set up an assembly line that allowed him to produce more cars than anybody with least amount of labor

a businessman without any unions, did the following for his employees due to market regulation that came in form of high turnover: 1. Paid them 5USD/hour with 5x 8 hour days. This means he paid them 25USD/week. The price of gold was just over 19USD/ounce, that means he was paying 1.25 ounces of gold. At current gold prices of 1724/ounce, that's 2155 USD/week. That's about 112,000USD/year. 2. Without income taxes to pay, Ford's workers were taking home over 112K in current money, and that's without income taxes. So in today's equivalent and given the fact that health insurance was about $5/year per person and doctor's visits were paid out of pocket and so was education and pension savings, because all of those things didn't have gov't involvement and so they were very affordable, today's equivalent would have to be at least 2.5 times that much, near 300,000USD. Ford also hired disabled workers by the way, that nobody wanted. He needed to lower turn over and to retain talent and he did it due to market pressure by improving conditions. The work week was 5 x 8 hour days. No unions, no income taxes, no payroll taxes, no corporate taxes, near no corporate regulations, no bullshit. This is the way the market works, the OWS with the shrewed capitalist 0.1% millionaire Michael Moore successful competitive 'documentary' producer is coming up stupid shit that they think will help anybody, well that experiment has failed enough times that people shouldn't buy into it.

yes, like spending some money to fund this study.

Exactly. Drug war is insane and it causes insane violence, that can be compared to that of terrorism for sure. Even though it's impossible to pretend that the drug war has nothing to do with violence it causes and with all of the non-violent drug related prisoners that shouldn't even be arrested, the federal government does not care.

So the question then follows: why are they petitioning the White House to do those things? Isn't it clear that the current administration and all administrations before it going nearly 100 years back don't have anything to do with the American people in general, but are there to satisfy special interests, whatever those are?

The only correct solution is to get rid of this government and to restore actual values that USA was based upon and it was thriving upon, and realize that most of those things that are petitioned are a platform for one consistent candidate, the only candidate in the race who has shown to be principled and consistent and correct about the problems years before the problems became obvious to everybody else.

So all those people petitioning the White House should join the real revolution.

Stop violation of individual liberties and freedoms.
Stop the wars.
Stop the drug war.
Stop the war on US (and world) economy with all the counterfeiting and theft.
Stop the special privileges.
Pardon the non-violent drug related prisoners.
Bring all troops home.
Stop wasteful government spending and shut down unconstitutional unauthorized unelected offices.
Balance the budget.
Stop counterfeiting the money and causing inflation and price hikes.
Stop destroying business with all the regulations and allow investment capital to return.

This is not a difficult message, it cannot be an unpopular message it is proving to be a popular one.

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(the formatting is better this way and the message is better to be posted with an account, even when the original account gets shut down for the day as biased moderation unleashes itself upon the messenger).

Exactly. Drug war is insane and it causes insane violence, that can be compared to that of terrorism for sure. Even though it's impossible to pretend that the drug war has nothing to do with violence it causes and with all of the non-violent drug related prisoners that shouldn't even be arrested, the federal government does not care. So the question then follows: why are they petitioning the White House to do those things? Isn't it clear that the current administration and all administrations before it going nearly 100 years back don't have anything to do with the American people in general, but are there to satisfy special interests, whatever those are? The only correct solution is to get rid of this government and to restore actual values that USA was based upon and it was thriving upon, and realize that most of those things that are petitioned are a platform for one consistent candidate, the only candidate in the race who has shown to be principled and consistent and correct about the problems years before the problems became obvious to everybody else. So all those people petitioning the White House should join the real revolution. Stop violation of individual liberties and freedoms. Stop the wars. Stop the drug war. Stop the war on US (and world) economy with all the counterfeiting and theft. Stop the special privileges. Pardon the non-violent drug related prisoners. Bring all troops home. Stop wasteful government spending and shut down unconstitutional unauthorized unelected offices. Balance the budget. Stop counterfeiting the money and causing inflation and price hikes. Stop destroying business with all the regulations and allow investment capital to return. This is not a difficult message, it cannot be an unpopular message it is proving to be a popular one.

How do you go about setting up an 'open ISP'? I wonder about a business plan for such a thing. There is rent, the connections, lines, equipment. Sounds costly. I'm sure there a way to set up a mesh network without an ISP at all, something like I2P without any ISP, having multiple hubs over cities, that connect one to another directly, getting away from the normal ISPs.

To be honest with you, whoever wrote this, can't write proper Russian, because there is double meaning there, which I will try to untangle correctly

3.4 Clients are forbidden:
3.4.1 To use client equipment in manner that is different from personal use, family use, home use. Also clients are forbidden from using the equipment for purposes such as business.

(this sentence, combined with the top 'Clients are forbidden', made it unclear whether business use is forbidden or not, but I believe it says business use is forbidden.)

3.4.2 To redistribute (forward), (replay) copy, and use in any other manner TV and radio programs (except in cases of non-commercial use by the client).

3.4.3 To take any other action, which are defined in the section VI "the rights and obligations" (section of regulations).

(whoever wrote this, needs to have brain untangled, it's all mushed up).

3.4.4 To use these services for the purposes of transmitting voice information via the information network, including the Internet network, i.e., the client is forbidden from using such applications, as Skype and other similar applications for voice transmission over the Internet.

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In short: you can only use this service for your personal/family purposes, not for business. You can't share TV and radio programs (there is nothing about parts of it, this was NOT written by a professional lawyer), and you can't use Skype.

AFAIC this is clearly monopoly control over the networks and trust me on this: this monopoly is completely government supported. There were many laws passed in Russia in the recent years to make sure there is as little available competition as possible.

Hey, what are governments for, right?