Please $70 more a month for internet and a $300 desk is nothing compared to requiring a $40,000 vehicle as a beater won't last driving an hour each way every day.

I know I lost a house I was going to buy as my 11 year old Kia worked until I had to return back to the office and I lost thousands in repairs forcing a sell so I have as 750 a month car payment now. I am furious my team forced us to come back in and screwed me. They all own homes and now I have to rent as I no longer qualify so they can look cool to management by sitting at that seat at 7am

Cars suck wealth more than anything besides housing. I had a Kia for 11 years which I credit due to working at home ...the past 3 months changed this.

The pressure to come into the office to look good is up as employees are all in competition to sit at their desk earlier and staying later to get those bonuses. Wah are starting to get laid off and fear is rising. Management is beaming because it means more productivity in their minds since we watch TV and nap all day at home.

So now I blew over $4500 into my car only worth $4000 to now have engine problems. Thanks to being at the office I had to buy a new car and now have a $700 car payment over 5 years. Grrrr.

Yes working at home saves for dumb expenses like cars which can keep even a six fig salary worker broke and an internal renter not home owner (average car payments are $1000 over 72 months last I looked).

Yeah in 2019 lol.

It's 2023 and good GPUs all cost over $1000 now! Gamer grade motherboards are $300 and a good CPU is $500+ for the top grade. Power supplies cost near $200 now. OS and monitor not included nor the Sony exclusive specials.

It is 2002 not 2023 all over again where the real value and performance is the console. Not PC.

You can thank Ngreedia and Asus, gigabyte, and other for getting greedy and ruining the market

Political as well in office politics. Those who come in can chat with leadership and take on more projects behind the other team's backs and can look more important and dedicated.

Gray hairs promote them. Stupid but I have seen it at my last employer which is why I left.

There is still a stigma people will goof all day if they have distractions and people can't keep an eye on them

I am an extrovert and HATE coming in. I work Hybrid and have to go to bed early and wake up at 5:30 and get clothes ready for tomorrow. I prefer to sleep in and stay up midnight and have less stress on my pc in my office area.

I think this remote would cycle back into the office. It was inevitable once economic conditions favor the employer again. Now a severe recession is starting where the employer dictates how we work and our pay rate and if you do not like it you can get your car repad and be homeless as 14 other equally qualified candidates desperate and scared will happily take it!

Longer term this opened the pandora box as newer workers get promoted to more senior level roles and start companies where Remote will slowly gain but for the short term people go into the office to look important. It works.

Those who come in get promoted to the gray hairs. Those who are remote and are never seen no one knows what they do outside of their immediate manager so our eliminated. Stupid but human psychology plays that role. When people are scared they work longer and come in more

My employer is training a guy who makes just 75K a year to do infosec work instead of paying 150K plus bonus to cut down on costs since sales are slowing down. He is hybrid though ... for now. He is beginning to show up to work every day to look important.

We are both older and remember 2004 and 2009. The market dictates who has the ball in the playground. True our skills have grown ... ok mine have tremendously since, but I am under no illusion.

If there is a 15% unemployment and a financial crises where we won't have a bailout this time around by next summer you can bet your butt you won't have any power and neither will I. You either accept 1/2 pay and be in the office or get yoru car repod and have your wife leave as the other option. Oddly that was me in 2011 the last time around and I learned a lesson which was harsh.

At the end of the day the pendulum is swinging back to the employer after the employees had a free run for the past 2 years. Everything in life is a power struggle and tug of war unfortunately.

It was coming to an end ... for most workers except a privledged few.

At the end of the day any employment contract is like a game of tug of war on who has more power. When you have rare valuable skills and there are not enough workers the works pull > employers. The workers dictate the salary and working conditions.

When the pendukumn swings in the other direction like in a recession the employer has a greater pull in the tug of war game and the out of work worker has less than workers employers.

The employer then dictates the pay and working conditions. It was bound to happen as 2021 was an abnormality and an inverse 2009.

If this upcoming recession is another 2009 and bad with bank runs you can bet your back you will see Indian H1B1 visa holders competition and 60k a year jobs with no overtime or benefits that used to pay 200k + bonus as actual workers be the norm. What I typed sounds extreme but I have seen it 2009 - 2012 when we all worked 80 hours a week for 1/3 the pay happy to be employed.

Work at home then will be a distant memory

More than likely they are returning back to the office to make the gray hairs happy ... the ones not paying taxes are on unemployment

What is funny is if you switch out C-Levels with employees in your arguement you make the exact opposite case on why workers need to come in.

A lack of trust seems to be the culprit. I tried work at home and I was good for awhile and liked it but I found myself goofing off after several days in a row. I do hybrid and come in more often as my ADHD is bad sometimes and I find myself listening to youtube instead of working.

The coworker working 2 jobs is angering me as he is taking some of my role. He was just hired and more experienced. You can argue he is as efficient as me so why not since he is awesome? But that is why he is a senior making probably 50K more a year than me.

Simple. Most people are not responsible enough to sit at their desks 8 hours a day.

I have one guy who is idle on teams and rumor it he is working 2 jobs. To end this management wants us all back in the office to keep on eye on us so we have to work when eyes are on us.

Another guy I can tell us driving during meetings. You can tell.

I hate to break it to you but studies show hours worked go up and productivity per hour goes down when work at home is available.

Timings are not as hard as people think. When rates are low betting markets like bitcoins and futures like Gold and commodies go up in value. This is because rich people and hedge funds take at near 0% loans so if they do not earn much they make a profit as it just has to earn more than the interest rate.

With higher rates even if the price of oil, wheat, gold, or bitcoin go up it must earn more than the interest rate which is much much higher now than a year ago to remain profit ... not counting if you lose money have the ability to pay back both the loan and the accrued interest.

Times like these markets slow and stable stocks and bonds take off.

People forget rich people not you and I regular folks set the price and make the market.

These large hedge funds and rich people got 0% interest loans from the FED and used them to buy bitcoin. The risk now is not worth it due to the interest that needs to be paid back. Bitcoin must gain more value than the interest of the loan to be profitable

If you want to get a wife and afford a house in 2023 you obsoletely need 6 figs to start an entry level life today

I just upgraded my 9900k to a 13900k this weekend and cyberpunk is much more playable. I didn't think it would bottleneck a 3080ti but it dead when raytracing is turned on

... and should be prices as such too. The 1080TI was $800 and very very expensive. 1080 was $499. Now a xx80 costs $1400 and the TI aka xx90 is close to $2000 for an oem card.

Our salaries have not doubled in 5 years but everything else has.

I never thought I would ever type this but a console looks like a much better deal these days and with the distance of the couch from the TV the upscaling is not noticeable as a PS5 looks better than with DLSS up close for only $499.