Comment Re:What about the presumption of innocence? (Score 1) 1590
-You CAN'T be stopped without a legally justifiable reason. WITH a legally justifiable reason, ANYBODY can be stopped. There are White people who commit crimes, as well as Blacks, Italians, Finns, Swedes, Brits, and any other race or ethnicity.
-No, they are probably confident that they won't be stopped and asked for proof of citizenship because their Valid Driver's License/State Identification/Passport/Military Identification will be sufficient enough. I don't know about the cops where you live, but I've never been pulled over by a cop who didn't ask to see my ID (and registration and proof of insurance). Cops are taught to ask for identification in any circumstance where a crime has been committed, or a suspicious circumstance arises (such as someone looking for a lost pet in someone's backyard that a neighbor thought was suspicious). It's called Proper Police Procedure. And yes, there is room for discretion, as a kids cannot be expected to have such identification at all times, or a Hispanic couple who is OBVIOUSLY just out for a walk, and not scoping out burglary targets. It's called common sense. If it looks reasonably suspicious, stop and ask them what they are doing. If it is obvious that someone is out for a walk, move on. If they are peering in windows, looking over their shoulders, walking along houselines, looking over fences, and carrying an empty bag, then the reasonable thing to do is stop them and ask them what they are doing. Proper Procedure also requires that you identify who, exactly, you are dealing with.
Only now, suspicion of being in the country illegally is justification enough to stop someone and ask for identification. The Supreme Court has upheld that you can't just go around and randomly stop people and compel them to produce identification. You had to be able to show cause, although even that was pretty flexible. Now, "looking illegal" is considered cause enough to stop someone and ask them to produce their papers. Don't try to pass this off as verifying the ID of people who have already been detained. This is stopping and detaining people SOLEY to force them to produce their documentation.
"Ignorance is the root of all evil."
-Kind of an ironic sig to append to such a post.
Not at all. Trying to perpetuate ignorance by misrepresenting the facts, then implying others are ignorant, now THAT'S ironic.