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Comment Re:What about the presumption of innocence? (Score 1) 1590

      -You CAN'T be stopped without a legally justifiable reason. WITH a legally justifiable reason, ANYBODY can be stopped. There are White people who commit crimes, as well as Blacks, Italians, Finns, Swedes, Brits, and any other race or ethnicity.

      -No, they are probably confident that they won't be stopped and asked for proof of citizenship because their Valid Driver's License/State Identification/Passport/Military Identification will be sufficient enough. I don't know about the cops where you live, but I've never been pulled over by a cop who didn't ask to see my ID (and registration and proof of insurance). Cops are taught to ask for identification in any circumstance where a crime has been committed, or a suspicious circumstance arises (such as someone looking for a lost pet in someone's backyard that a neighbor thought was suspicious). It's called Proper Police Procedure. And yes, there is room for discretion, as a kids cannot be expected to have such identification at all times, or a Hispanic couple who is OBVIOUSLY just out for a walk, and not scoping out burglary targets. It's called common sense. If it looks reasonably suspicious, stop and ask them what they are doing. If it is obvious that someone is out for a walk, move on. If they are peering in windows, looking over their shoulders, walking along houselines, looking over fences, and carrying an empty bag, then the reasonable thing to do is stop them and ask them what they are doing. Proper Procedure also requires that you identify who, exactly, you are dealing with.

Only now, suspicion of being in the country illegally is justification enough to stop someone and ask for identification. The Supreme Court has upheld that you can't just go around and randomly stop people and compel them to produce identification. You had to be able to show cause, although even that was pretty flexible. Now, "looking illegal" is considered cause enough to stop someone and ask them to produce their papers. Don't try to pass this off as verifying the ID of people who have already been detained. This is stopping and detaining people SOLEY to force them to produce their documentation.

"Ignorance is the root of all evil."

      -Kind of an ironic sig to append to such a post.

Not at all. Trying to perpetuate ignorance by misrepresenting the facts, then implying others are ignorant, now THAT'S ironic.

Comment Re:What about the presumption of innocence? (Score 5, Insightful) 1590

Non-citizens do not have all of the rights that a citizen does. And frankly, I don't see what the big deal here is. In most places in the world... the first world included... visitors are required to have documentation on them of some kind, be it visa papers or a passport.

But what about non-visitors? US citizens don't carry birth certificates or passports with them every day, nor are they required to. So how do they prove their citizenship when stopped? Would they just be detained until they can have someone bring their passport to the local jail? No one seems too concerned with that scenario because of the unspoken assumption that anyone who "looked" like a citizen wouldn't be stopped. And that's where the concerns of discrimination come into play. I'm sure the vast majority of people who support this law are confident they won't be stopped and asked for proof of citizenship because they are "obviously" American. Of course, if they're wrong they're going to be very unhappy to find that a driver's license isn't even close to documentation of citizenship.

Comment What should they have done? (Score 3, Insightful) 300

Putting aside for the moment the question of whether or not the "no-fly" lists serve a legitimate purpose (they don't), what should they have done? If information indicating a particular person may be dangerous comes in while someone is already in transit, should they have just said "Damn, if we had been a little quicker we wouldn't let you in, but you beat the buzzer. We suspect you're a terrorist, but since you had already left you can come in this time. But next time, forget it!"

Comment Re:The pendulum swinging (Score 2, Funny) 79

If there is life on any moon of Saturn, what makes you think they'd be reliant on solar power? For all we know this life could be decades behind us technologically, and still burning wood and coal. Or they could be more advanced, and using fusion. After all, if they have liquid water they have the necessary materials to put out fires AND cool reactors!

Comment Re:Who cares about the humans (Score 1) 336

I don't remember if it was covered in the original movie or not, but it was (IIRC) covered in the book. The "distress signal" that the Nostromo picked up had been discovered by the company and found to actually be a warning. Ripley realized it was really a warning to stay away, and that's when Ash tried to kill her to cover up what the company was trying to do.

Comment Re:Mandatory punishment (Score 1) 70

I disagree. I think you can combine "2.0" and "paradigm" to instantiate their synergy to create a diverse empowerment of all stakeholders. As long as you don't brick society in the process. Call it "English 2.0".

          Brett

Wow. You better hope the Buddhists aren't right, otherwise your next life is going to suck a lot for that one.

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