well the telecoms actually add jobs to the community. They may get some subsides and tax cuts ( both of which I hate and would like to eliminate), but they do not live off the tax payers pocketbook. they compete unlike these socialist organizations we call public institutions. Not one of them should get any form of the Feds. Live in the real world, get off the public dime and compete. purchase goods and services at fair market prices like every one else does.

actually this should have happened years ago. WiscNet and the like are nothing but socialist organizations living off the taxpayers. It is about time that they join the real world and face the financial realities of real life. Possible the cry babies here should realize that public employees of all types, but exspecially teachers are overpaid and under worked. They work in a socialist cocoon where they never have to compete for jobs and have come to think of their special perks as mandatory. It is time to get the educations systems hand out of the tax payers pocket as much as possible. live in the real world. to paraphrase your last comment, "hey socialist, go to hell and get your hand out of my pocket".

I would suggest that this be a lesson. Your heart was in the right place, but you are donating to a legal defense fund for a person under investigation for a serious violation of US Federal Law. Now wither that law is dumb is not at issue. Any contact, can and most likely be found during the discovery process. What is done with it is another thing altogether. Lawyers, be they Civil, Criminal defense or Prosecutors will push the limits of the letter and the intent of the search warrant. To you think for a moment that the defense in this case would hesitate a second to hide this if they could? The second you used a third party to donate money, in this case Paypal, you can never claim confidentiality, at least under Federal Law. Also The Federal Courts have the right to issue electronic search warrants for "Business" records of any company doing business int he US.

actually Sociology, Philosophy, Theology, Religion for the most part do have a very useful place in the world. Science, for all its wonders doesn't have the answers to every questions of man. I am not presuming to make Religion or any of the pseudo sciences as answers, but as a development of the mind of man that reaches beyond what can be proved. They are probably wrong, but that is not the point, science is wrong on many things, At one time science believe that man could not survive travel at more than 30 miles per hour. At one time science thought that the proton, neutron, and electron were the smallest particles in the universe, they were wrong. Science or at least it was supposed to be science had been used to convince people of every thing from man made global warming to racial and gender inferiority. Science is a belief system, religion is a belief system. they are neither all inclusive or all exclusive. Science, the hard sciences at least at based on the belief that everything is concrete, based in matter and energy. Pseudo science and religion are based on intangibles. Do I believe in god, I answer that I am a "don-car', it means is "do not care". Do I believe in science can explain it all? I do not. If we stick to provable science, we have no fiction, no faster than light travel, no magic, no love, no charity, no hope. Look not to religion for scientific proof. Look not to science for the intrinsic part of life that can not be defined, explained, or otherwise quantified.

wrong. As long as they get a single dollar from the Government or private sources, they should have to patent it to claim exclusive right and pay just like every one else does, no exemptions

then do not rely on the Government to pay for it. Only Government money came with strings. Get off the damn Government dole. The citizen suffer cause idiots like you think the government is the answer and not the cause of most of our problems.

horse crap. the polio vaccine was developed as a profit making venture. "the greater good" is serviced by capitalism having the incentive to make a profit while helping others. I was alive then I know what happened,

Imagine, Researchers not getting their own way, first that mean bunch of Conservative think the people of the US should not have to pay for them trying to play god. Then, Goodness they have to compete for private funds; gasp!!! Then the people that did invest want ownership of the results; the savages. Lest be completely honest about this. Most organizations that do medical research live off of government money, they think they know better then everyone else. They cry and cry when they do not get their own way, then if they do succeed, they want the money from it. Guess what folks, this is still a Free enterprise country. If you patent a process, if you pay to have it developed, you own it, the government should have 0 say in it. Remember, the Saulk group developed the polio Vaccine as a profit making project.

Google does not have spam, Google is spam.

And My coworkers wonder why I think apple as a corporation sucks. They are stupid. I see a large market for black market copies of the driver.

I disagree completely. What This state needs is to first of all make the entire state, including all government agencies, a right to work state. This can be done by passing a law or as I prefer, a Michigan Constitutional Amendment. This will open up Michigan to be competitive with southern states. Michigan has lost out to the Right to work states repeatedly when it comes to manufacturing. This must change. Second, the state must re-write the civil service code to allow governmental agency to ignore the current unionized thugs that populate the state employee rolls. They work little and cost thousands more than they are worth. Firing or at least having the ability to fire them would make them more responsive to the needs of the citizens. Third cut all State employee pay/benefits/compensation to a level that is equal to the level the average in the state as a whole. This would stop them from regulating business of of the state. Reduce the outrageous impediments to business in this state, The the government itself. We do need regulation, but not to the degree we have it. Mayor Bing has the right Idea, Reduce the size of the City to a manageable size. We can not reduces the size of the state, but we can reduce the impact of Govenrment. Every regulation, every existing law, every governmental office should be reviewed and eliminated as needed. Many State Governemnt functins should be contracted out.

lets be blunt about this, you are condoning theft, the willful disclosure of private information for your own political cause, to address what you feel is wrong. You do not care who you hurt, all you care about is your goal. You sound a lot like exactly the people you seem to think you have a right to bring down. It is interesting to me that technically adept people seem to think that they are the end all and be all. That they have a higher calling and violating other peoples rights, the law, and any other form or moral code is ok, as long as there goal is met. I have been working with sensitive data on various systems for 30+ years. Not once have I violated my duty to maintain confidentiality. You and the people you support think that rules are for other, lesser beings, when in fact you are the very poster child for the worst types of behavior found on computer networks. I think it is high time people like this man get stiff punishments for what they do.

You have a very strange morality. You are justifying the means to suit your ends. What he did was wrong. Not exposing the flaw, but going public with private information. As others have said, your concept of right and wrong is akin to anarchy.

This person hacked someones email, I don't care that it was a public official or not. Prison is right where he belongs. I am not advocating a huge sentence, a 2 year stay would be enough. Minimum Security, no computers, no access to the net in any way. That would be enough I think.

I really think you need to have a source available for that statement. In my experience it is just the opposite. Union workers are, in general, less productive, less attentive, and less trust worthy than non union labor. Deliberate destruction of equipment, shoddy workmanship, and an attitude that they know more or better than the owners of the company, or anyone else for that matter. The Auto industry is a prime example of unions run amok. No, unions are a bad idea anywhere attention to detail, specialized skills or when life and death decisions are made.