Comment Re:Consider the source (Score 0) 292
Actually the source of the info about his wife's employment is from his own bio page from NYS.
http://www.health.state.ny.us/prevention/public_health_works/profiles/commissioner_daines.htm
Actually the source of the info about his wife's employment is from his own bio page from NYS.
http://www.health.state.ny.us/prevention/public_health_works/profiles/commissioner_daines.htm
If you are so worried about catching a virus...
VACCINATE YOURSELF DUMBASS!!!!
Oddly enough I actually know more people who have gotten sick after the flu shot versus those who got sick without the flu shot.
As for myself having worked in healthcare for over 11 years on critical ICU, ER and respiratory units I have never gotten the flu shot have gotten the flu ONCE, NOT from the hospital. When I did, I stayed home, and with my knowledge managed not to infect anyone else.
Of all the areas with a high number of persons in a given space, a hospital is probably the safest place to be. You are surrounded by trained professional who know how to handle themselves and others. Your desk jockey buddy next to you WILL infect you.
For your information the precautions necessary that you think would be so economically unfeasible are the same precautions hospital workers already take.
It is called UNIVERSAL PRECAUTIONS. Hospital workers are TRAINED to treat everyone they encounter as if they are infectious. How many other professions have this training?
Vaccinate yourself since YOU are more likely to pass along the virus...
The problem with your thinking is that you fail to realize that healthcare workers do not show up to work when they are sick. Most know better to begin with verses the rest of the population who are not as continuously conscious about disease processes and methods of transmission.
If you look at where all of the outbreaks occur, you will find it is NOT in hospitals.
It would make more sense to focus your attention at where they are occurring.
When you have this answer then you can come back and look smarter than you do now.
We've been seeing tons and tons of articles like this recently on slashdot. There's a consistent anti-vaccine slant on all of them. I'm guessing that there's some small group of antivaccine crazies who are active on the firehose, and they consistently vote up each other's stories.
I am always amazed at how these trolls get modded up?
Who is the idiot in charge here?
This is for all of the medically illiterate.
Getting the swine flu vaccine WILL NOT prevent a person from transmitting the disease, only help them better DEFEND against it.
All of the major transmission sites are NOT hospitals, but rather schools where there is not a good protocol or trained professionals who know how to prevent/limit transmission.
I say to you CHILDREN should be vaccinated.
Now I guarantee most parents would be outraged.
From your own sig;
"free flow of knowledge and trade defend liberty better than force"
Healthcare workers should NOT be forced into this not so thoroughly tested vaccine.
So, what this article is saying is that as you increase the number of random assumptions the validity of linked assumption increases.
Assumptions;
-The Higgs Boson particle exists.
-Nature abhors this particle.
-Time travel is possible.
-This inanimate particle will use this possible time travel to sabotage machine that can theoretically create theoretical particle.
Allow me to paraphrase in a manner that slashdotters understand.
Assumptions;
-Nature abhors slashdotters.
-Time travel is possible
-Slashdotters Procreate
-Time warps and shifts so that the procreation never happens since it is so against the natural order of things.
OMG it is true................
Slashdotters should fear the upcoming SPERM program.
Surveillance
Program
Encompassing
Repetitive
Masturbation
I dread the day Big Brother puts SPERM on everyone.
You are correct to pouint out the fact that the 90 year senior citizen (redundant statement) is not likely ention as much but you have just mentioned 2 of the 3 most susceptible groups of people. The other group being those with respiratory ailments or disease such as COPD, asthma, etc. Of all of the cases of swine flu, tell me how many were acquired in the hospital. Also, tell me how many healthcare professionals acquired it. If you answer to this last question is no greater than the general population as a whole then you have no case.
"If a hospital worker were to get sick, they could still unknowingly transmit the virus to other patients before they realized it."
You are under the assumption that the flu shot totally prevents one from getting or transmitting the flu virus and you are dead wrong. You don;t even have to have the virus yourself to transmit it. Your own ignorance would give you a false sense of security.
you sound like one of those ignoramus anuses who think that if everyone got vaccinated then the flu would be eliminated.
"-Did you stop to think WHY the rate is so low? It's low in hospitals because of the PRECAUTIONS that are taken. The rate is higher in schools because the only precautions taken in schools are hand-washing."
Thank you, I already made that point. Nice to see you had a good idea, oh wait, it was MY idea. You are also proving my point that maybe all school children should be forced to vaccinate or be expelled. I am sure many parents would reconsider the idea of forced vaccination of their children with an expedited release of a vaccine.
Next time open your mouth and stop talking out of your ass.
The previous inane comments with a hint of sarcasm are using the wrong analogy.
Construction workers WEARING hardhats and Astronauts WEARING spacesuits is akin to a nurse or doctor using UNIVERSAL PRECAUTIONS, which includes proper hand washing, WEARING gloves, masks, gown, and limiting the most infectious persons to a confined negative pressure space.
As a health care professional many of us are appalled that we are being forced into becoming guinea pigs for the drug companies.
In reality those most at risk are school children and anyone who takes public transportation or is in a confined space with others for an extended period of time. Cubical workers untrained in proper infection avoidance are more at risk than any hospital worker.
While you see a greater percentage of sick persons within the confines of a hospital, hospital staff are actually trained on how to limit transmission of disease whereas out in public, and especially in schools or universities there is no such training.
The biggest stories in the media are the number of CHILDREN who have succumb to the virus. So in reality all school aged children all the way up through graduate school should be the population receiving mandatory vaccinations.
Previous rate of hospital acquired flu infection are so low that they often fly under the radar, whereas SCHOOL acquired flu transmission is extremely high. The most common hospital acquired infection is a skin staph infection.
Most Health care professionals do not get the annual flu shot and even with this statistic there has not been any previous recent hospital acquired flu pandemic to warrant this mandatory vaccination program.
When you become the guinea pig for all of the wrong reasons, then you will understand our frustration.
For God's sake, stop researching for a while and begin to think!