In Arabic 'Tiz' actually means 'butt'. 'Tizen' means 'two butts' or 'many butts' depending on the actual pronunciation(and which spoken dialect you happen to be using).

How is what we have now with things like minified js any different than bytecode? Have a look at the source for gmail, or the minified version of jquery. You need analysis software to have any hope of making any sense of it and it's exactly the same then as a bytecode decompiler.

jQuery is open source, which means you can get the non-minified version and read that to know how it works, but I would dare anyone to make sense of the 100s of KBs of obfuscated js that is the gmail interface(or quite a few other popular products and services for that matter).

Yes, but what is different about what the first poster in this thread was suggesting is for that bytecode to have DOM bindings. Java applets were self-contained applications that ran in a window within the page and touched nothing outside of that(and had to do all the drawing themselves and were completely inconsistent with the rest of the page with regards to look and feel as a result).

What is being suggested here is something that would replace javascript that would interact with and modify the whole page through a DOM interface, completely unlike an applet and much more useful.

I don't know what distro you're on, I personally use arch linux. They have an answer to both those problems(the power management solution is generic but the network management is an arch-only thing, I think):

Power management:
    1) http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpufreqd/ A nifty little tool that allows you to define profiles and switch to them depending on a few variables(with plugins to extend the built in variables). Handles things like AC on/off of course, but also cpu temperatures, battery percentage, etc...
    2) install acpid and modify /etc/handler.sh to react to specific acpi events(like ac on/off)

Network management: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netcfg The nice things about netcfg is that it's easy to use and cli-based. This means you can have wifi up and running from the terminal without fooling around with wpa_supplicant. This is really useful for me because my laptop has switchable graphics and I've been experimenting with automatically detecting which card has been selected from the bios and loading the appropriate drivers(it so happens that the catalyst and intel driver packages are mutually exclusive on arch). This leaves me without any graphics on boot quite a few times and it's nice to still have internet access when that happens.

Furthermore, at some point around 4:30 she says 'it's a 2 to 3 year old device now'

yes?

I completely agree with that last statement of yours. How can something be 'overrated' if it hasn't even been rated yet? I've had a post be modded down to -1 completely by overrated mods. see here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1997640&cid=35219116

That post may be considered 'flamebait' or 'troll' by some. It may even seem just completely wrong to many many people. But it most definitely is not, nor will it ever be 'overrated' as it simply wasn't 'rated' to begin with.

Can't really cite it as this is from personal experience. I'm Christian but I grew up in west Beirut(mostly among Sunni Muslims but I also have Druze and Chiite friends). One of my most anti-American/Israeli friends is a Chiite originally from a small town in the south whose family is involved politically with Hizbollah. In debates I couldn't even bring up *any* kind of not 100% fundamentalist idea without her saying that I was advocating we completely surrender to Israel. Yes, the indoctrination was that bad. And yet, she embraced Western values like women's rights or capitalism or various cultural things with no problem at all.

People are hypocrites, we know that by now.

Well, I don't know about Pakistan, really. However, I grew up(and still live) in Lebanon. A country (in)famous for its 15 year civil war that pitted Christians against Muslims and being fertile ground for many many fundamentalist Islamic organizations(see Hizbollah). Moreover, we also ban books that are anti-[insert religion here]. Like Salman Rushdie's "The Satanic Verses" or Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code"(and yes, I realize those two aren't even on the same plane as each other but I know about those because I wanted to read them to see what all the fuss was about and found out they were banned).

However, in school, they teach evolution, there isn't really any kind of debate about it. When I read up about the debate in the US I was literally flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity and religious fundamentalism at work(and given my background, that should tell you something as I see such stupidity at work in society around me every day). I couldn't even imagine how people could attack science that way for such stupid reasons.

Also, my school was a Christian Protestant school where the majority of the students are muslims(The area its in turned from 50/50 to 90/10 during the war as most Christians fled those parts of Beirut). That doesn't really matter though because the science that is taught is mandated by the state and the standardized exams in biology do have evolution in them.

TL,DR; I grew up in quite a fundamentalist(both Christian and Muslim) environment and yes, they teach evolution and nobody thinks to do otherwise.

PS: The same could be applied to global warming as much as evolution.

I, again, only speak about that country which I know most, Lebanon, and almost anyone I know here, and even the politicians, do want the conflict to end. I'll take personal experience, conversations I've had with many many people and extensive reading about my country and the region that I've done over the past 4 years over the word of someone who just asserts otherwise thank you.

Second, the difference between Lebanon(or any other Arab state) and Israel in this issue of difficulties dealing with the Palestinians is that the Arab states did not take their lands away from them, nor did they force them(directly or indirectly due to conflict) to migrate en-masse from their lands. The Palestinians in Arab states are *refugees*, when a country of 4 million gets has ~0.5mil refugees you can be damn sure it's going to be troublesome dealing with them, especially if it isn't exactly stable to begin with. However, the Palestinians in Israel are *natives* you can bet Israel has to deal with them and find a solution to the problem.

"Lebanon keeps Palestinians in poverty in refugee camps instead of integrating them into society"
"Yes, indeed. Palestinian society, much like the rest of the Arab world, allows a criminal waste of human potential by diverting energy towards a conflict instead of towards building up civil society. That's why most Arab states have a low (and usually declining) human development index and shockingly inefficient economies compared to Israel."

Of course in the case of Lebanon this has absolutely *nothing* to do with a 15 year civil war, sparked, in large part, due to the presence of the Palestinian refugees in the first place. From the Wikipedia article on the Lebanese civil war:

Between 1968 and 1975, there was a gradual buildup in the assertion by Yasser Arafat's PLO of its right to fight Israel from the Lebanese south, in spite of Lebanese sovereignty. A sample of the incidents includes: Palestinian roadblocks in the city of Beirut killing Lebanese civilians; kidnapping by PLO militants of Lebanese gendarmes; Syria's backing of the PLO included punishing Lebanon by closing the borders between the two countries, which choked the Lebanese economy; incursions by Palestinian contingents of the Syrian Army such as the Palestine Liberation Army, the Al-Saiqa commandos, the Yarmouk Brigades, etc. into Lebanese territory and carrying out massacres against Christian villages in the north and the east; ineffective attacks by PLO militants against the Israeli north were often met with massive and deadly reprisals by Israel against the civilian population; the assassination of the Israeli ambassador in London led to Israel bombing Beirut Airport and destroying the entire fleet of the Lebanese national air carrier - MEA, Lebanese army air force bombing the Palestinian camps, etc. After these incidents, several accords were signed between the Lebanese State and the PLO (examples: The Cairo Accord of 1969 and the Melkart Accord of 1972), only to be violated by the PLO, then backed by Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Egypt.

In the spring of 1975, this build-up erupted in an all-out conflict, with the PLO pitted against the Christian Phalange, and the ever-weaker national government wavering between the need to maintain order and catering to its constituency.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War#First_phase_1975.E2.80.931977

The peace that Lebanon has had since 1990 is still extremely fragile and integrating the Palestinians into Lebanese society would probably shatter that. But go ahead, plunge a nation back into civil war for the sake of potential scientific talent that is being wasted. I hate it when people do armchair politicking, things aren't as easy or uncomplicated as you think. I've spent the past 4 years of my life trying to make sense of this region I was born in, reading books and watching documentaries. And things are just incredibly complex. I used to think "just integrate the Palestinians" and I now know it's just not possible, do that, and someone *will* take up arms and fight it(yes, it's wrong, but they'll do it, so you better make your decision knowing this), I've talked to enough fundamentalists on all sides to know that most people here just aren't rational. But then, can you blame them? Almost everyone I know who's over 40 has lost someone close and feelings and emotions surrounding this issue are still very high.

Shhhhhh.... Don't talk about that, Israel doesn't steal

I thought Israel was "The Only Democracy in the Middle East"(tm) (also, neatly ignoring Lebanon). Why can't the people do anything about it? You can just blame it on the rulers.

How this ever got to +4 insightful I will never know. Rather, it just shows how much pro-Israel propaganda has been successful in the west. The image of Israel as a beleaguered state, surrounded on all sides by enemies while it is only defending itself is largely a creation of the media and has no relation whatsoever to the actual history of the region.

I will not go into a discussion of the conflict here as any not pro-Israeli posts get modded -1 overrated to oblivion but I will point out what I do know and that is wrong with your post. Though if anyone is interested "The Gun and the Olive Branches" is a very informative book(written by a British journalist).

"If the Palestinians are really suffering as much as people claim why has Egypt, Jordon, Lebanon, or Syria never allowed the Palestinians to settle in their lands?"

Each nation has its own situation, in the case of Lebanon(my country, which, by the way, is a democracy and where a large segment of the population does not really have a major issue with Israel -- the Christians, ~40% of the population, and I happen to be one), the Palestinians aren't given citizenship because doing so would upset the current balance of force in the country, tilting it towards the Sunni Muslim side. Given that the country is still in the early stages of recovering from a devastating 15 year civil war(in which the Palestinians played a major role igniting, but they weren't alone) and given the fact that Sunni/Chiite tensions continue to rise year-on-year in the whole area almost all analysts agree that attempting to assimilate the Palestinians into Lebanese society would shatter what fragile equilibrium currently exists.

"if someone is bitter at the United States because it allies itself with wretched hives of scum and villainy, as we do on occasion, that is legitimate"
"The United States blocks numerous Arab actions against Israel in the UN, and people hate the US in part because of that. That is less legitimate."

The United States doesn't just block Arab actions against Israel, it blocks world actions against Israel. I'll start by saying that I'm an Arab, specifically, I'm Lebanese(and Christian, this matters as a Lebanese person as Christians have tended, historically, to be more pro-Israel). However, I've grown quite detached, emotionally, from the issue.

Read some of the writings of Robert Fisk, David Hirst or Noam Chomsky on the Arab-Israeli struggle. You will see, that despite the western media picturing it otherwise, the case of Israel and any of the other regimes which oppress people and cause hatred is not really that different.

As for it making an easy target, again, I'd have to disagree. It doesn't. People here are actually attracted to western lifestyles(and I'm not just talking about Lebanon, but all the Arab states, I've been to Egypt quite a few times and have been living as a missionary in Syria for the past year) and do not hate the west because of those(except for a minority of fundamentalist bigots, and again, despite the media picturing it otherwise, they are a minority).

It is solely and fundamentally American and Israeli policy that has alienated the region from you, that has created tensions and given birth to Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism in their modern forms. Islamic fundamentalism was born as a result of American tampering in Iran(even pro-west sources such as this book: http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Cold-War-Conflict/dp/0786717319 will tell you as much). It was sustained by the US in Afghanistan and it has now spread to many regions in the middle east. Hezbollah, also as an example, was born of the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Internationally condemned with many UN resolutions to testify for this but US(Reagan) backed.

This: http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Olive-Branch-Violence-Middle/dp/1560254831 is a good book to start from if you want to read about the history of the region. Check the author out if you don't think he can be trusted to be objective or knowledgeable on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hirst_(journalist)