Never, a Libertarian is just a greedball Republican who smokes pot.

"I don't get this woman thing."

Don't worry dude that just makes you one of the crowd on /.

All the shallow newspeak condensation of texting with character limits with all the interactivity of e-mail circa 1975, as far far as I am concerned the twitter hype can't die fast enough. Fo course it makes $ many for large centralized corporations as shallow people update us on how they just finished eating a cheeseburger (isn't that fascinating?) so we dare not question it, right net.Libertarian$?

Hurray Apple catches up to OS X 10.2 circa 2002 in terms of the GPU composting graphics. Hurray!!!! Oh wait.... http://www.kernelthread.com/publications/appleoshistory/10.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.2 Microsoft maintains it's consistent 8 year lag behind Apple, and no truth isn't a troll.

It's metaphor, dumbass not a proof in logic. The point is the OP is behaving like a Nazi and I was showing how hatred and brainwashing work by rewriting his metaphor which is about literature not science. Now go back to your low level tech job where creativity isn't required and let the big boys hash out world politics.

Funding parties that oppose policies the U.S. government doesn't like most certainly is interference:

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22868.htm

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06192009.html

The neo-cons are openly bragging that they are supporting the Iranian opposition ie interfering in their society:

"The National Endowment for Democracy has spent millions of dollars during the past decade promoting âcolorâ(TM) revolutions in places such as Ukraine and Serbia, training political workers in modern communications and organizational techniques.

âoeSome of that money appears to have made it into the hands of pro-Mousavi groups, who have ties to non-governmental organizations outside Iran that the National Endowment for Democracy funds.â

Yes, you say, but what does a blow-hard propagandist like Timmerman know about such things? Well, he should know! His very spooky Foundation for Democracy in Iran has its own snout deep in the trough of NEDâ(TM)s âoeopen covert actionsâ against the Iranian government.

How does the âoeFoundation for Democracy in Iranâ seek to âoepromote democracyâ in Iran with our tax dollars? Foundation co-founder Joshua Muravchik gives us a hint in his subtly-titled LA Times piece, âoeBomb Iran.â

Frankly, what I find more disturbing than the fact that the US government continues meddling in this new magical era of Obama is how many in the United States continue to be taken in by these events color-coordinated from afar. Pundits have turned their websites green in âoesolidarityâ with this âoegreen revolution.â Self-described âoelibertariansâ have thrown all critical thinking aside to embrace their inner green. As if hoping, somehow, that this time it will all be true. That the âoepeople powerâ really is on the march. That it is a binary world where there are evil incumbents â" the old guard â" oppressing thrusting âoereformersâ who are Twittering away toward the bright tomorrow of a world where everyone wants to be just like us! Democracy!"

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/027782.html

Even the Voice of America admits Ahmadinejad was ahead going in to the elections:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-06-08-voa60.cfm

Note that I think Ahmadinejad is a cruel and reactionary leader, but if that is the Iranian peoples choice I think we ought to stay out of it 100% and focus on our own dire economic circumstances, decayed infrastructure, and lack of healthcare in the U.S. first and foremost. Endless meddling in other peoples affairs only leads to wasted blood and treasure and blowback, something I very much agree with Ron Paul on despite being a leftist activist.

"A man on French soil gets attacked by agents of a foreign government."

Clearly terrorism.

Advocates of the French Resistance are enemies of Germany, and when they attack our citizens they should be sent straight to a concentration camp.

Now you know how Nazis are made, so next time you think to yourself ","how did millions of people in Germany come to follow Hitler and hate the Jews who did nothing to them now you know," look in the mirror.

First I'll say that violence is 100% uncalled for, but I wouldn't doubt if the U.S. government is using the private but publicly funded "Endowment for Democracy" to interfere with Iran's election to help bring about the regime change the neo-cons have been gunning for, for a decade now. Imagine if it was found out that Chinese agents were interfering with our governance wouldn't that piss you off?

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=National_Endowment_for_Democracy

http://www.iefd.org/articles/trojan_horse.php

I can't prove this is happening of course but it would very consistent with previous covert U.S. interventions in other countries like Guatemala, Iran, Iraq, etc. My gut feeling is, is that is awfully perfectly timed and heavily pushed by the MSM to be a 100% spontaneous uprising. Again I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that there is more going on here than we are been told about.

What scares me is that an increasingly hawkish foreign policy will probably get almost no domestic opposition in the U.S. as neo-con Republicans are already behind it, and many naive "liberal" do gooder type won't question ANYTHING done by Obama (who I voted for BTW, mistake). Now more than ever it's time for Ron Paul authentic conservatives and lefty activists like myself to share notes IMO as the "center" gets increasingly imperialistic and bloodthirsty.

Go ahead and flame me and mod me down, I've got karma to burn, shrug

A very sober and sobering assessment as a Michigan resident I couldn't agree more even though I am a Green and not a Geo-Lib.

Nuff said,

"and Windows 7 blows Snow Leopard out of the water"

I didn't know Microsoft made crystal balls that foretell the future. Fascinating the things you learn on /.

I have an Acoustic Research AR-1 speaker that is over 50 years old and working like a top as a subwoofer. :) One of the things I like about analog audio is the shear durability of the products compared to anything digital. The golden age of audio was the 70s and 70s Sansui, Pioneer, and Marantz amps and receivers are VERY in demand, name ANY digital product that was better 30+ years ago? I do like advancements in processor speed HD capacity etc, and filling up landfills with working 6 year old computers? Not so much...

And Adam Smith who knows where that "invisible hand" has been?

Toonol sed:

"Yes, companies screw up and are evil; but they have the right to be, just like individuals."

Your statement that companies have a "right" to be "EVIL" sums up the Libertarian philosophy in a nutshell. It's why I could never vote for Ron Paul despite having great respect for his consistent courageous opposition to endless war by the U.S. government. The fatal flaw of the Libertarian philosophy is that you don't think morality or even basic human decency applies to business, that they should be allowed to operate in a 100% ethics free zoneand that the "free market" excuses ALL excesses with a magic wand. M$ is just but one relatively small example of why that is a bad idea, Shell oil in Nigeria is a more serious example of what private businesses are capable of unhindered by morality.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Boycotts/Flames_Shell.html

And no this isn't the Nigerian governments fault they only used government soldiers because they were cheap they would have hired pivate militias to slaughter Nigerian environmentalists if no soldiers had been available.

In an ideal world of course business morality would come from voluntary self restraint but since greed seems to overpower self restraint (again see M$) alas it seems that businesses must be regulated to keep people from suffering. Unrestrained greed is quite literally the killer of the Goose that lays the golden egg of the Libertarians stateless utopia which is just that a utopia just as 100% unrealistic as the communist utopia that looks good on paper and not so much in practice.

That cuts both ways though in a capitalist "free market" employers can choose to keep labor prices artificially low to line their pockets with profits stolen from labor FORCING the working person to take a very low paying job with poor working conditions just to survive. In an economy with more work place democracy and better social supports the working person has more freedom to CHOOSE the job they want and be assured that that work will provide a living wage healthcare for that worker and his or her family.

You don't understand the difference? The Libertarian version of "freedom" in practice only means "freedom" for the upper 15% of well to do people and wage slavery misery for that is no way free for the vast majority of the population. This is born out in looking at quality of life in quasi socialist countries like Sweden v.s. the U.S. hint we aren't "#1."

"No less a "capitalist tool" than Forbes Magazine let a red cat out of the bag with a report this month that the happiest countries tend to be Scandinavian socialist democracies. High per-capita GDP certainly plays a role in their felicity, but even social democratic New Zealand, with per-capita GDP only 64 percent of the United States', ranks with the 10 democracies above us in the happiness index. They pay high taxes in these pinkotopias, but folks enjoy entitlements like free college, extensive elder care, and 52-week paid maternity leave.

The 2005 poll measured personal reports of enjoyment, pride in achievement and learning, being respected, among other things. Forbes suggests that such happiness derives from family, social and community networks, and a decent work-life balance, noting that the average workweek in Scandinavia is 37 hours."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/24

In sum try again, many of us see through the Libertarian charade about "freedom" in the workplace. Yes to Libertarians correct critiques of police state at home and empire abroad, no to laissez affaire capitalism that is naught but a recipe for a very few living living in opulent excess while many suffer without healthcare, adequate housing, or the opportunity for high quality secondary education for their kids.