...Terminator II that could bend all funny when needed. My friend next to me said: "relax, it's only fiction". Where's that bastard now!?

too late

As mentioned, greased with enough money, they will accept political drama risk.

We're talking 1967, not 967.

> Everything else Israel has taken was during wars of aggression launched against them.

Palestine wasn't a nation in '67, they couldn't declare war on a flea. It would be like us taking Canada because Mexico attacked us.

A doomer might not be objective, but they'd at least be motivated.

It's a Donzi Scheme.

Where they hide all the data in The Cloud.

> Yes. Yes, it is.

STFU troll! Do something useful, like going to check to see if Hell is real.

Find a few loud nuts to taint a wider group. Propaganda 101. #ReadAbook

Obviously it was caused by the Deep Puddle State.

> A Carrington level event would disrupt the social order.

So do pandemics and nuke wars. But knocking down civilization for a while isn't likely to stop it. The fall of the Roman Empire created a "dark zone" in our history, but after a roughly a thousand years we bounced back, largely because most the knowledge the Romans gained didn't go away.

> No sane person stays where their life is in danger, no sane person kills for land.

Neither side is sane, they are fighting Holy Wars in their heads, and believe they will be rewarded in Heaven.

And a good many Palestinians have left for Jordon, Egypt, etc. Those remaining are more determined.

If you are trying find a "good guy" in this mess you came to wrong place.

> The IDF kills in self defense, and does not target civilians

Yet Pal. civilians somehow end up taking the brunt.

Israel stole their land, when they fight back your type acts surprised. "Why don't they just bend over and take it like most Native Americans did?"

Israel ain't no fucking angel. Both sides are big assholes in different ways.

Projection. AIPAC bought your mind with their deep pockets.

> Except that is the same. Its being a useful idiot for Hamas.

It's not.

> Hamas attacks Israel than very intentionally puts civilians in harms way and maximizes the civilian costs to any attempt to remove their authoritarian grip. When inevitably something happens like some civilians or aide workers are killed they play the victim card.

Israel does the same by stuffing the West Bank with families and children, even though it's not their land, or at least highly disputed land.

The bottom line is both are assholes playing dangerous games of deathly manipulation, and staying in Gaza will not solve any problems. It's not about "fairness" anymore, both lost their Fair Card by being continuous aholes.

> Anti-Zionism is nothing but antisemitism with a thin veneer of intellectual argument over the aggressive racism it represents.

Hogwash! Some anti-Semites are also anti-zioninists, but they are different things. In my mind Zionism includes "God wants us to own the West Bank".

I want peace for BOTH Israel and Palestinians. The best way to get that is a 2 state solution where Israel leaves the West Bank, returning to roughly 1966 borders, but they hold onto the WB for religious reasons (under the guise of many excuses). Leaving the West Bank won't guarantee peace, but it is a prerequisite.

If they don't want Pal's in WB for "security reasons", then leave it EMPTY, not stuff it with children.