Clearly you do not live in Canada ... now if you will please excuse me, I must get back to winding my cellphone for tomorrow.

So...

Very...

No.

Something grander, eh? Like perhaps they might one day arrive to the functionality of my now obsolete n800, with a marginally functional phone on top. Yeah, that will get my attention.

Openmoko is dead. They had their chance, and due to a lack of leadership they allowed the coders to play games when they should have been making a working software stack. If they had created a reasonably stable phone, with the potential for platform growth after purchase (as they had promised) they would probably be selling their millionth unit sometime this year.

Speaking of a stable phone with the potential for platform growth as the stack matures, does that sound at all familiar to you? Android perhaps? Android essentially IS what Openmoko said they would be.

It's too bad really, because although I like Google they are a huge corporation, and that always get's me a bit nervous. Android will probably be a lot of things in the future, but I hope the next MS it isn't.

First, I was a huge Openmoko booster, so understand this comment comes with a dose of bitterness...

They did not forget Openmoko, they simply didn't bother mentioning a failed project. Has Openemoko actually got the PHONE part of their phone working yet? Or, as has been the problem all along, are they still doing the typical code diva thing of making the most arcane and limited geek functions work flawlessly, to the exclusion of something that might sell a few units to a normal grunt like myself.

For two years I talked of how I would get that phone when it was ready. Now I wait for Android, and screw Openmoko.

If Openmoko wants to get back in the game, call me when the phone works well, and don't forget to sell the 2002 hardware for a fair price ... let's say $75.

I imagine you require a Fine Arts Degree of your house painters? Perhaps you aren't satisfied unless your Big Mac comes with a pedigree? I don't even want to joke about what credentials you might require of a wife ... In other words, if you are such a code snob, what the hell are you doing browsing Slashdot?

Sorry guys, but comments like his are just inane code Diva BS, and the code on this site screws up my n800 something awful. Seemed like a nice fit.

We are Canadians. Our skills consist of talking and bitching ...

If it wasn't for Microsoft, our government would still be keeping our files on clay tablets, and we as common folk would write out our tax returns in pencil every year, to be mailed by Canada Post in just two weeks time.

You can't find skills here because they are as rare as objectivity in the Toronto Star. Our education system makes it impossible to be otherwise.

...or are the Microsoft shills out in full force today?

Earning the BMW payment today, are we boys?

I once tried suggesting to the local LUG the idea of advocating for a Canadian made distro. They were looking for ways to make themselves relevant again after years of waning import. I even gave it a name; Canux.

Never have I seen so many people with so much education work so hard to miss the point.

Remind me again why I should suddenly believe we have the vision and foresight to make this work?

When dealing with the species known as the Canadian bureaucrat, my experience as a linux and OSS advocate have been predictable, uniform and unfortunate. Any mention of OSS of any kind, or even the merest mentioning of the word linux, causes immediate ridicule, followed quickly by vilefication, contempt, scorn, then dismissal.

To say they tend not to be open to the idea of OSS would be an understatement of the grandest proportions.

... but that's just my experience ... ymmv.

>>>I'm a libertarian, when I lose an argument I say: "you're right".

The joy of finding someone who understands ... thanks for making my day. :-)

After reading a few dozen posts, I feel I should apologize on behalf of my fellow Canadians. We bicker like children over the various lies our leaders tell us to distract ourselves from the fact we are friggin idiots!

A country full of political zealots who all feel that their way is the one and only path, because that's what they were told by the CBC. I am so sick and disgusted with our righteous ... almost religious ... indignation when faced with ... (oh the horror!) ... an opposing opinion.

Anyway, as you can all see I am not a lot better, so again I just want to apologize for my Canadian brothers and sisters. We will make it up to you one day, when we grow up.