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Comment Re:What grounds? (Score 1) 973

Yes, you're absolutely right. No federal laws in the U.S. have been changed since mid-1953. There is certainly no 18 U.S.C. 3594 limiting the application of the death penalty in federal cases to loss of life (of a non-participant in the same crime) or narcotics trafficking (thank Clinton for that one) and 18 U.S.C. 793 (the most serious offense he's likely to be charged with (gathering, transmitting or losing defense information) doesn't set the maximum penalty at ten years and $500,000 fine.

Comment Re:What grounds? (Score 1) 973

Proven by whom? In what court? He has not been charged with anything in the United States (yet). In the U.S. though, no one will ever need to prove that he didn't do something (so it never will be proved). The government will have to prove that he did if he is ever charged.

Please get an education and grow up. The world does not work the way you think it does.

It's the pot calling the kettle black.

Comment Re:Virus (Score 1) 498

Jell-O is a trademark and is gelatin (or gelatine), which is completely different from jelly. One is made from skins and bones of animals and the other is made from fruit.

The word jelly to refer to a fruit preserve is not an Americanism. The food is. Jelly is made from fruit juice. Jam is made from fruit. They are completely different products. Jelly is not jam and jam is not jelly.

Comment Re:Something the judges should read (Score 1) 1219

Florida has Implied Consent, has for a long time. By exercising your privilege (not a right) to drive, you consent to a sobriety test when one is requested of you.

No.By accepting a Floridian (or pretty much any U.S. state driver's license), you agree that licensure is conditional on coöperation with future field sobriety tests and breathalyzers. That's why it's implied consent that is expressly declared on nearly every document used in the licensure process. If you have the right to consent, you have the right to revoke that consent (especially when more information becomes available about the particulars).

Now, as to whether driving is a privilege or a right, bullshit. A privilege is a special advantage or immunity unique to a particular minority. It is a right, but not an inherent or natural one, to drive on public roads.

Failure to do so makes they can strip away the privilege of driving form you.

This is partly true (despite your improper and vulgar use of “privilege”): They can suspend or revoke your driver's license at any time.

If it weren't for all the drunk dumb shits (like the dude that rear-ended me last February) who need nany government to wipe their ass and make laws that punish everyone, we'd have a much better society.

Drunk driving should have a MINIMUM jail sentence, not probation, not a fine, JAIL. If you don't like it, DON'T DRIVE UNDER THE INFLUENCE.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't care whether or not you (or anyone else) like it, do not drink and drive.

I'm 26 years old and I will have back pain the rest of my life now. Thanks Brian Helm of New Port Richey, Florida (the dude that hit me).

csb

Comment Re:Bad Idea (Score 1) 1219

That's not the way things are run, he's just an uninformed twit. In most, if not all states, you agree to surrender to breath testing at the discretion of law enforcement as part of getting your license.

This part is true. However, it is still your constitutional right to refuse a breathalyzer without criminal penalty for such refusal. It is a condition of maintaining a valid driver's license and you will lose your license for such a refusal. Again however, with probable cause, you're fucked.

Comment Re:Checkpoints necessary? (Score 1) 1219

No, that checkpoint you described is probably typical. Every statistical analysis of areas that do these checkpoints and areas that don't shows that they do not decrease drunk driving. They pin cops down to specific spots that drunk drivers will avoid and then lack the flexibility they have when actually patrolling, so all the local drunks know where all the local cops are.

Comment Re:Why would you refuse a breathalyzer? (Score 1) 1219

I think one can make an argument that random breathalyzers do violate the Fifth Amendment: “No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Due process of law has always been interpreted as meaning that judicial officials operate independently of the executive and legislative branches, and this completely undermines that.

However, to make that argument that it's prohibited by the Fifth Amendment, you'd have to make an argument for incorporation of the Fifth Amendment (make it apply to the states, too, and not just the federal government) under the Fourteenth Amendment.

However, that's not necessary, because the Fourteenth Amendment has been found to incorporate the Fourth Amendment, and includes its own due process clause to protect against states.

Comment Re:seems simple (Score 1) 1219

If you drive with a 0.07, which is marginally close to illegal, you should be in the backseat of a cab. dont pretend this makes no sense to you.
that's like arguing attempted murder vs murder..

It is absolutely nothing like that distinction. One is completely legal and the other completely illegal whereas both attempted murder and murder are completely illegal.

I do not suggest anyone drive at 0.07 any more than I suggest driving and applying make-up at 80 mph. They are both legal (and the one “closer” to illegal is the lesser of the two evils).

Comment Re:seems simple (Score 1) 1219

Yes, that says that your license will be revoked on the spot if you refuse breathalyzer or other intoxication test.

You can sign anything you want saying you will consent to something in the future, but there are no criminal penalties for revoking that consent in the future. (But that means that you need to be prepared for a lawsuit.) The state however does not need to justify its revocation of your driver's license and they remove any such implication by requiring you to sign such a document.

However, if there is probable cause, the police can demand an immediate Breathalyzer, with or without your consent, and refusing that can (and most likely will) lead to criminal charges, too. (And kiss your license goodbye.)

Normally, police cannot order a blood test unless the Breathalyzer is over the limit.

Comment Re:seems simple (Score 1) 1219

The Fourth Amendment is part of the federal Constitution, but its protection is applied to the states, too, by the Fourteenth Amendment.

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The Florida State Constitution is also rather particular about this type of thing. From their state constitution:

Art. 1 12.–The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, and against the unreasonable interception of private communications by any means, shall not be violated. No warrant shall be issued except upon probable cause, supported by affidavit, particularly describing the place or places to be searched, the person or persons, thing or things to be seized, the communication to be intercepted and the nature of evidence to be obtained.

Most state constitutions in the U.S. have a far broader bill of rights than the one everyone's familiar with in the federal constitution (but state courts also tend to be looser in interpreting them).

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