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John B. Hare writes "John B. Hare writes "Many publishers of public domain content on the Kindle are being turned away for reasons which Amazon declines to clarify. In the past two weeks any publisher posting a public domain book (or a book which appears to be a public domain book) have received the message "Your book is currently under review by the Kindle Operations team as we are trying to improve the Kindle customer experience. Please check back in 5 business days to see if your book was published to the store."

Amazon claims that this is a quality control issue, that readers can't figure out on their own that a five page Kindle book for $9.99 is a rip-off or yet another Kindle edition of 'Pride and Prejudice' is pointless. This was supposed to be the point of user feedback and the Kindle return policy: the user can quickly decide what the best choice is, and if they don't like it, back out without any harm done.

I own and run one of the primary contributors of new public domain etexts on the web: sacred-texts.com. When the ban went into effect, I was just back from an intense round of chemo. I was disappointed to get this message. I am (was?) in the process of converting all of the 2000+ ebooks at sacred-texts into Kindle editions. I use a homebrew preflight Kindle filter to construct the Kindle binary from my master files, which we have invested nearly a million dollars into creating. We spend thousands a month in-house doing legal clearance, scanning, OCRing, and proofing, often by domain experts. So we are hardly a fly-by-night operation. In fact, many of the PD texts floating around on the Internet and on the Kindle were originally done at sacred-texts at great investment of labor and time. Our Kindle return rate is close to zero.

This morning I received an email stating:

Dear Publisher,

We're working on a policy and procedure change to fix a customer experience problem caused by multiple copies of public domain titles being uploaded by a multitude of publishers. For an example of this problem, do a search on "Pride and Prejudice" in the Kindle Store. The current situation is very confusing for customers as it makes it difficult to decide which 'Pride and Prejudice' to choose. As a result, at this time we are not accepting additional public domain titles through DTP, including the following: The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ
The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ
Traces of a Hidden Tradition in Masonry and Medieval Mysticism
The History of the Knights Templar by Nicolas Notovitch...


If you believe that we have wrongly identified this title as a public domain title, and you are the copyright holder or are authorized to sell it by the copyright holder, then please reply to title-submission@amazon.com with appropriate documentation of your e-book rights.

Thank you, Amazon.com

As can be seen, this brings an entirely new issue into play: apparently, if I owned the rights to a public domain book and can prove it, they will reconsider. However, nobody can own a public domain book. Amazon is telling us that in order to post our books we need to prove a contradiction!

One key point is that Amazon has applied this ban completely non-selectively. Established publishers such as myself and others who have never had any quality control issues whatsoever, and give good value for the price, have all been tarred with the broad brush of 'Public Domain Publisher--do not post'.

By banning new public domain books from the Kindle, they are making an implicit decision as to which books people should read. You can argue that 'you can get these texts anywhere' but by excluding high quality Kindle books of them from the nascent Kindle marketplace, Amazon is implicitly trying to decide what is a valid part of our culture and what isn't. This trend does not bode well for the future of ebooks.

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Amazon bans public domain from Kindle

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  • First of all, I hope that your health matters all come out all right. But having said that...

    Your headline is "Amazon bans public domain from Kindle." Unless you can show me that no public domain works are available for the Kindle, this really comes off as a sensational--and false--headline.

    Public domain isn't banned. It sounds from your description like unsolicited versions of public domain works are what is banned, and that's a huge difference. And even at that, they're not banned, there will just hav

    • by jbhare (1639499)

      Thanks for your comment. I'll try to address your issues. As it stands, Amazon has now stated pretty clearly that they want to ban future public domain submissions, hence my headline. Basically at this point, the conversation has been very one-sided and absolute from their side. Hopefully this will change if there is enough exposure of their business practices.

      Amazon (or at least the DTP division) is a very opaque organization. It is hard to get an email to contact them, let alone a phone number or even

      • We have a love/hate relationship rather than the kind of boosterism that you see with the Apple marketplace.

        iPhone developers are well aware of what a love/hate relationship is. Apps are fun, and some are quite useful, but if you're an iPhone developer, Apple's control over the store and application publishing is crazy oppressive, and many are the times I've thought about just saying, "Screw it, I'm out."

        Sounds about the same with Amazon, maybe there are a lot of parallels here.

  • The kindle will be the death of Amazon. If you are a shareholder, I would get out right NOW! You heard it here first on /. Amazon is loosing big money could be bankrupt soon.
  • Dear John B Hare, I am saddened to see this blatant abuse from Amazon. I do know after speaking to a couple of friends in California, about 5 months ago one of the founders of Juniper Networks was really in to kindle's until he took my advice on Amazon's abusive customer service whereby they control what you read. or turn your kindle in to a "brick" so cannot read anything. Amazon also deleted George Orwell's 1984 Book off kindle's and then had to issue an apology which was painful for them. Maybe John, t

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