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Cisco Plans $1B Investment In Cloud 61

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itwbennett (1594911) writes "Cisco Systems said Monday it plans to invest over $1 billion to expand its cloud business over the next two years, including building a global, OpenStack-based 'network of clouds' that it has dubbed the 'intercloud'. The Intercloud will support any workload, on any hypervisor and interoperate with any cloud, both private and public, according to Cisco."
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Cisco Plans $1B Investment In Cloud

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:27PM (#46564657)

    ...until I release my metaintercloud.

    They'll all be regretting that misdirected $1 billion then.

    • When I hear "investing in the cloud" it sounds like they are going to "invest" using a leaf blower.

      About as effective, too.

      Hope some loose cash blows my way.

    • great truncation of my topic

      Supposed to read:

      "Why do people bitch about the NSA and still put their data in "the cloud""
      • by Anonymous Coward

        u're comment in the subject?

      • everyone p's

      • by srussia (884021)

        "Why do people bitch about the NSA and still p

        Glad you're OK. I thought that was a genuine "NO CARRIER".

      • by styrotech (136124)

        "Why do people bitch about the NSA and still put their data in "the cloud"

        Maybe because it won't matter. If the NSA wants it, they will just compromise your network and the desktops of your sysadmins and managers to get it.

        I think I'd rather them just grab the data from the source without installing rootkits in my network ;)

        (Yes I know they'd do both either way)

  • by BitZtream (692029) on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:29PM (#46564679)

    Because you can run any service on any hypervisor ... magically ... on their cloud ... it will also magically cure all the worlds ills.

    Marketing douche bags, I suspect 'works together' means that they have network connectivity.

    • by Tokolosh (1256448)

      It uses their backdoor to Huawei (which they happened to find lying around).

    • by idji (984038) on Monday March 24, 2014 @01:21PM (#46565217)
      My company has employees in over 40 countries globally - 100 of us need to daily collaborate to build demo, download and upload virtual machines. A cloud provider gives us that for about 100,000k€/year and gives us servers in US, Europe and Asia. There is no way we could do that internally for 2 or 3 times that price. Cloud is a great solution for us - data loss, hacking, snooping etc are not issues because these are customer facing demo machines, and we download what we want.
      • by BitZtream (692029)

        And thats impressive because?

        I can do that with the cluster I have in my bedroom closet at home. (You haven't described anything really, so saying I can do it is trivial). Right now its got ~45 Windows XP machines running test suites on code, and some FreeBSD machines managing it along with a few OSX boxes for testing. So I doubt you've got much more load than I do.

        A cloud provider gives you ... exactly same thing that data centers have been giving you for the last 30 years, except you can do it remotely

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Large company buys additional servers and plans to lease services. More after at 11:00!

    • The revelation here is that THINK they are doing something new. They're not.

      • by Chrisq (894406)

        The revelation here is that THINK they are doing something new. They're not.

        Ah but the grey-haired executives in financial institutions, local government departments, and manufacturing companies will think its something new too

  • by sociocapitalist (2471722) on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:39PM (#46564779)

    Cisco aggressively offering cloud services themselves aught to go over well with all the customers of Cisco who currently offer cloud services.

  • A whole network of clouds... are they proposing some form of hierarchy or do they just mean "a big cloud"?
  • The cloud worked perfectly and increased performance substantially!
  • Listen to Woz (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Gothmolly (148874) on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:41PM (#46564817)

    I saw Woz speak a few years ago at a conference, and he was pretty anti-cloud - he says you should own your own data, in your hand, on (ideally) a computer you built and programmed yourself. He's spot on.

    Clouds lose data. They get hacked. They get snooped. If you have a storage device in your hand, you own the data.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Not anymore with Android and iOS. You have a storage device in your hand. That storage device uploads your data so the NSA can still spy on you. If you bought a device from a big company and that device accesses the internet, your data is already in the cloud. Whether you know about it or not.

    • by lgw (121541)

      I saw Woz speak a few years ago at a conference, and he was pretty anti-cloud - he says you should own your own data, in your hand, on (ideally) a computer you built and programmed yourself. He's spot on.

      You know, chairs built by hand by an individual craftsman really are better than those mass-produced chairs. Funny how price matters. Automation always means some loss of control, but huge gains in cost and repeatability. "It's going to railroad, come railroad time".

    • Re:Listen to Woz (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Drethon (1445051) on Monday March 24, 2014 @01:33PM (#46565339)
      Depends on what that data is.

      Personal data that no one else needs to see? Sitting on my HD behind firewalls that should keep it where I put it. If it is really private data and rarely used I may keep it on a CD sitting on a shelf. No guarantees in life though.

      Private data that I want to work on at multiple locations but will not be catastrophic if someone else gets ahold of it? On a NAS at home, behind those same firewalls and wired into the network. Should be about as secure as sitting on my HD but if someone manages to hack my router and NAS... well...

      Limited shared data? Now I start wandering into the cloud and Dropbox seems pretty good to me so far. Never actually leaves my hard drive but is available for others I choose to play with. Am hoping no one ever hacks that account but I knew the risks when I put it there.

      Stuff I want to make public and don't really care much about? At this point I don't particularly care which cloud has it so long as they are fairly stable.
      • Limited shared data? Now I start wandering into the cloud and Dropbox seems pretty good to me so far. Never actually leaves my hard drive but is available for others I choose to play with. Am hoping no one ever hacks that account but I knew the risks when I put it there.

        Except that at that point it truly is in The Cloud on Dropbox's servers, you just still have a copy on your local drive.

        • by Drethon (1445051)
          Yep but at least I never lose control of a copy, even if someone else's servers also have my data now.
  • by cellocgw (617879) <cellocgw@gmail . c om> on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:42PM (#46564825) Journal

    They gonna call it the "uber-cloud" ?

    Or maybe the "mother of all clouds" ?

    Anyway, once Cisco's got it up & running, just imagine a Beowulf cluster of them. Or don't.

    • by geekmux (1040042)

      They gonna call it the "uber-cloud" ?

      Or maybe the "mother of all clouds" ?

      Anyway, once Cisco's got it up & running, just imagine a Beowulf cluster of them. Or don't.

      I'd rather imagine a new training device for marketeers.

      It's fairly simple, as it only requires a seasoned IT professional, a glove, and a new HR policy that allows slapping the shit out of people making up senseless words.

  • by jeffb (2.718) (1189693) on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:45PM (#46564855)

    ...but I guess a Judy Collins reference outs me as older than even Cisco's management.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Note: This thread is best experienced with the cloud-to-butt plus extension

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Geez...just what we need. Cisco in the cloud.

    Cisco is a company that invents their own standards based on their own thinking, but sometimes on existing standards, then attempts to force the world to follow "the Cisco way".... Anybody for IGRP or EIGRP or HSRP? While the existing standards may not have all the "bells and whistles" of the similar Cisco-developed feature, at least the existing standards have a better hope of interoperating between different vendor's hardware. And Cisco-developed standards? Wel

  • by grahamsaa (1287732) on Monday March 24, 2014 @01:21PM (#46565213)
    Seriously. . . who comes up with this stuff?
    • by geekmux (1040042)

      Seriously. . . who comes up with this stuff?

      Not sure what his name is, but I hear he lives in a van down by the intertubes.

  • Do they not know what market research is? If they asked a sample size of say...anything, they would learn that they have a reputation to be ungodly overpriced on anything that could be classified as a subscription. That could be a support plan or extended warranty or planned maintenance or, oh I don't know, cloud services maybe. Even if every last IT person on the planet knows to avoid ongoing cisco costs, by itself the company should know they're too bulky and expensive to operate. They will get underc
    • Their 20% net margin and $50,000,000,000 cash reserves beg to differ with your armchair analysis...

  • Must. Resist urge to stab pencils in my eyes.

    Going to surf some cyberspace on the information highway using the interweb with the internet to access some clouds within the Intercloud.

    Between media and marketing speak it is getting harder and harder to distinguish between fictional and actual technical terms.

    I decided long ago to only use the most ridiculous terms in protest, I get all my bits through a series of tubes on the Intertubes.

  • So, they'll be sponsoring Iron Man 4 you mean?
  • There is nothing wrong with dreaming of castles in the clouds. The issue is, trying to move in.

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