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Microsoft Cuts Surface Pro Price By $100 341

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SmartAboutThings writes "After discounting the Surface RT tablet worldwide by 30 percent, Microsoft is now cutting the price of its Surface Pro tablet by one hundred dollars. Steve Ballmer himself has recently declared that he was unhappy with the number of tablets Microsoft has managed to sell. The price cut offer is valid between August 4th and August 29th. It might continue or stop, according to the supply. The price cut is applicable to Surface Pro 64 GB & 128 GB models."
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Microsoft Cuts Surface Pro Price By $100

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  • Not enough (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Maxo-Texas (864189) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:11PM (#44472155)

    Sorry but that's not enough- not nearly enough.

    Perhaps if they were between $350 and $550?

    Otherwise, I can have a 10" tablet for $300 (or much less) or I can have a laptop for $450 (or much less).

    The touch is okay but the price point isn't right.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:18PM (#44472215) Journal

    At that price, the Surface Pro is more or less even with the Wacom stylus-input displays (of similar size, larger ones are substantially more expensive) that don't have a computer attached to them...

    Unless the pen input is totally gimped, this seems like it would be a serious competitor to those for everyone except people whose photoshopping is serious enough that the Surface's specs can't handle it. Especially if your demands are at all mobile, it's hard to justify buying the Wacom when you could get the screen and stylus input with the laptop thrown in for free. It's a pity that the Surface can't act as a monitor/input device (optionally, while charging at your desk, for example, it could go from a waste of space to an extra monitor) for more powerful computers.

  • Re:Not enough (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ericloewe (2129490) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:20PM (#44472223)

    The price cut lets it undercut every direct competitor by 100 bucks. This thing doesn't compete against a puny ARM tablet or even a puny $450 laptop. It competes against ultrabooks and especially ultrabook-tablet hybrids (Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro, Sony Vaio Duo...).

    It has its niche - less money for the same product is always better, but it's by no means overpriced.

  • Re:Excellent (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ericloewe (2129490) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:29PM (#44472283)

    Little third-party developer support? You must live in some fantasy world where Windows 95-Windows 8 never existed. A tablet that runs every 32-bit (and 64-bit) application ever written for the world's most popular OS since the mid-90's does not have "little third party developer support".

  • Success or Failure (Score:4, Interesting)

    by tuppe666 (904118) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:29PM (#44472287)

    Much ink has been spilled about the failure of the unloved RT model...One that other than it being severely crippled with Secure Boot was ARM, something I liked a lot...the pro has a fan! I don't see what is compelling about another Windows 8 Ultrabook (Pen input aside...that is great)

    What we do know is that the $900m writedown was related to Surface RT only, but the $853m revenue figure includes sales of Surface RT and Surface Pro combined. Microsoft upped its sales and marketing budget for the Windows Division in 2013 by a jaw-dropping $1bn, which included an $898m increase in advertising costs "associated primarily with Windows 8 and Surface.

  • Re:Not enough (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:31PM (#44472305)

    The pen makes it absolutely worth it. It's a professional Wacom digitizer pen with 1024 levels of sensitivity. Drawing right on the tablet screen is awesome. The pen also works with desktop apps like Illustrator, Photoshop, SketchPad Pro, etc.

  • Re:Still useless (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Trepidity (597) <delirium-slashdot@noSPam.hackish.org> on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:31PM (#44472307)

    Well, I could use them for a faux-brick facade or something. How cheap are those bricks again?

  • Re:Excellent (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:45PM (#44472433)

    Congratulations, you've won the bronze in the "Miss the fucking point completely" competition!

    Hint: most desktop apps from "most supported platform on the planet" are mostly useless when running on small touchscreen. There's a reason tablet computers didn't really catch on until iOS - and not for the lack of tablets with "most supported platform on the planet". There was even Windows XP Tablet Edition, which still didn't help a bit.

  • Re:Excellent (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:48PM (#44472467)

    Surface Pro is just as doomed as Surface RT:

    It's a shitty tablet: low res screen, a ridiculously short battery life, with just as little tablet useful and good quality apps (they're the same ones as Windows RT) i.e. apps with a touch UI, to most people, to a lot of people, being a "standard x86 computer" (but with touch) also means dealing with the problems they've had for years with their Windows PCs (malware and what not). The OS takes far too much of the SSD, and it's bloody overpriced compared to an ipad. It just doesn't have any advantages at being a tablet over iPads or Android-based tablets.

    It's a shitty laptop: the overpriced keyboard sucks, the screen is too damn tiny (and not very high res), the screen angle doesn't adjust well like a laptop, it has less options for connecting it. Want to plug it to this external display or an ethernet port? That requires a proprietary overpriced cable!

    For the price of a Surface Pro with the keyboard cover and the necessary cables, I can get an ipad that's a far better tablet in every way, and a "good enough" laptop (better than a Surface Pro at anything I'll do on it) that'll last me 5 years.

    Sure, the Surface Pro "replaces" both but all-around in a very sub-par way, and that's only a real gain if you're travelling. I don't mind leaving the laptop somewhere else in the house if I go read an ebook elsewhere with the ipad, nor that it bothers me to have the ipad lying elsewhere if I'm working on the laptop.

    The Surface Pro is truly the worst of both worlds, and it's not exactly cheap either.

  • Re:Excellent (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 04, 2013 @06:53PM (#44472509)

    It's called l-a-p-t-o-p, or n-o-t-e-b-o-o-k P-C. You might want to look it up.

    If touch is just a useless gimmick, then why not simply get a cheaper and/or better specced notebook?

  • by jsepeta (412566) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @07:19PM (#44472695) Homepage

    "If you can only sell on price, you have nothing worth selling."

    for as good as the surface pro is, i'd rather have a Windows 7 laptop for half the price.

    my fucking horrible samsung windows 8 laptop (NP550P5C-A01UB, catchy name, no?) types wherever the hell the cursor is, not necessarily where i had intended to type. fuck windows 8.

  • Re: Not enough (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Glonoinha (587375) on Sunday August 04, 2013 @08:07PM (#44473043) Journal

    Turn off the WiFi adapter before putting your droid on standby.
    Turn it back on when you wake it back up.
    Your standby battery life will go from one day to over a week.

  • Re:Not enough (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ozmanjusri (601766) <aussie_bob@@@hotmail...com> on Sunday August 04, 2013 @10:00PM (#44473737) Journal

    Yea everyone knows a Nexus 7 beats a core i5! AMIRITE?

    It does if your goals are to have a handheld tablet which runs cool, has great battery life, plenty of touch-optimised apps and low OS maintenance requirements.

    And that's the problem with both the Surfaces.

    The RT is late to the party with several irritations and nothing better to offer than the other tablet OSs, not to mention a lot less apps available. The Pro brings the same old Windows benefits, complexity and issues every other Windows machine brings, but also puts nothing new on the table. Technically there's lots of click-click cleverness and interface bling, but neither enables users to do anything new or better than what's already available.

    Microsoft has been trying to do tablets for longer than most companies - I even still have a Compaq Concerto with Pen Windows on it - but they've never managed to give the actual users of the hardware any tangible benefit for the cost or complexity. For users, it's not so much "Where do you want to go today?" as a bewildered "Well, what can I do with this thing now?"

  • Re:MS Trolls (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 04, 2013 @11:46PM (#44474243)
    Why was this modded "troll" when in fact the MS camp on /. is obviously trolling: Look at the scores. Remember that one a few days ago that got a +5 Informative for being an obvious MS Shill? Some of the trolls language: "DAMN GOOD travel companion", "Drawing right on the tablet screen IS AWESOME." "it's predecessors were ...(AWESOME)...The surface Pro VASTLY OUTSTRIPS either of those..", " This machine REALLY SHINES with the Click Keyboard."... Boots in 7 SECONDS FLAT. And its PERFORMANCE is AMAZING, and the interface is WELL THOUGHT OUT". I could go on. Include any of those keywords and automatically get 1 mod point for at least 2. An army of moderators needs to go out and downgrade these unworthy posts about Microsoft or it's products, changing points on some of these clowns' postings, some of which are from people who post like 5 or more times each. Are we living in a world where talk is cheap and we can just use ultra-positive words without giving actual evidence as to _how_ the product is great. Go back to English 101. Explain your point and develop an argument. Shame on these moderators!
  • Re:Excellent (Score:4, Interesting)

    by LordLimecat (1103839) on Monday August 05, 2013 @01:09AM (#44474527)

    Vista was legitimately bad in most regards. The UI was the one "redeeming" aspect; everything else was half baked.

    8 is the reverse. The UI blows, the core is good. All problems MS is having with 8 are self-inflicted.

  • Re:Not enough (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Deathlizard (115856) on Monday August 05, 2013 @08:38AM (#44475919) Homepage Journal

    The main draw for me to my Surface Pro was the power. I was using a Lenovo S10e for most of my work tasks and while it worked ok, it didn't have enough power to do heavy lifting tasks like Virtual Machines or PC games well. As a subnotebook replacement, the Surface Pro is one of the best if not the best option out there. As a tablet, not so much.

    That being said, my Nexus 7 is a much better tablet. If I want to browse the web or check email, the N7 is much better than the SP for that. For occasional tablet use the SP isn't bad but the SP's weight vs the N7 is very noticeable. Battery Life vs the SP is no contest either. The N7 destroys both Surface systems there, But I'm not going to be playing TF2 or running My DEV VM on my N7 anytime soon.

    The biggest problem that Microsoft faces when it comes to the Surface is the RT models. They seriously need to revamp RT to be DEV Friendly or EOL it right now. If MS focused strictly on the Surface Pro's from the beginning instead of doing the typical Balmeresque halfassing strategy they've done with just about everything coming out of Redmond the last two years by trying to compete against IPad like just about every failed tablet manufacturer out there then maybe they wouldn't be sitting on a crap ton of money wasting in a warehouse.

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