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NRC Releases Audio of Fukushima Disaster 56

mdsolar writes "The Nuclear Regulatory Commission today released transcripts and audio recordings made at the NRC Operations Center during last year's meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Japan. The release of these audio recordings comes at the request of the public radio program 'BURN: An Energy Journal,' and its host Alex Chadwick. The recordings show the inside workings of the U.S. government's highest level efforts to understand and deal with the unfolding nuclear crisis as the reactors meltdown. In the course of a week, the NRC is repeatedly alarmed that the situation may turn even more catastrophic. The NRC emergency staff discusses what to do — and what the consequences may be — as it learns that reactor containment safeguards are failing, and that spent fuel pools are boiling away their cooling water, and in one case perhaps catching fire."
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NRC Releases Audio of Fukushima Disaster

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  • by Mr 44 ( 180750 ) on Wednesday February 22, 2012 @09:31PM (#39132289)

    Most of the comments on the linked site are pretty critical, here's a typical post:

    rfordwm - Feb 21, 2012:

    I don't understand what the point of this piece was. All I heard on the recordings were cool headed honest assessments of what information they had on Japan.

    Yet Ryssdal says such things as "Wow. Scary when nuclear guys start using phrases like alarming language,' betraying a predisposition to distrust in these "nuclear guys." But for those listeners who don't share that predisposition what is it exactly we were to be scared of?

    Perhaps Mr. Chadwick will enlighten us:
      "this is the NRC -- they'e watching YouTube and CNN."

    Huh... So there is a breakdown in information I should perhaps be concerned about?

    Again Chadwick gives us the answer:

    "Because this area is so devastated by the tsunami. So many people are lost, 20,000. The infrastructure is all blown away."

    Well that seems like a good reason for information being sparse. Not to mention the NRC is a national agency, concerned with domestic nuclear safety.

    Again, what was the point of this? Why were Mr. Ryssdal and Mr. Chadwick using words and tones that denote alarm and concern? Perhaps they could clarify?

  • by izomiac ( 815208 ) on Wednesday February 22, 2012 @10:08PM (#39132501) Homepage
    Actually I don't remember any of that. Checking the initial article reveals that I don't remember it because it didn't happen. One person said it wasn't a meltdown, and nobody said anything like "STFU luddites" (nothing even close to that quote ever appears).

    I also wouldn't gloat... given the most costly natural disaster in human history, which claimed 20,000 lives, only two workers died from the nuclear plant, and there have been no cases of radiation poisoning. Compare this to the six who immediately died in the nearby oil refinery.

    At worse, there may be a 0.1% increase in cancer risk due to radiation for the locals (per the most pessimistic scientist opining on the topic), but a lot more have died from the simple loss of electricity. Plus, that works out to ~1,000 deaths over ~50 years, compared to 1,200 cancer deaths due to coal mining (not burning) in Appalachia in the US each year.

    I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but that comment did make me curious enough to see how Slashdot fares at predicting the future.
  • by MrKaos ( 858439 ) on Thursday February 23, 2012 @08:42AM (#39135449) Journal

    What's the controversy here?

    The controversy is that many of the Nuclear reactors in operation in the U.S are the G.E Mk 1, that Fukushima was. Even the Hitachi and Toshiba reactors are copies of the GE Mk 1.

    The second part of the controversy is that the spent fuel cooling pools in the US are much more heavily loaded with pu-239 than Fukushima is/was.

    The third part of the controversy is that U.S operators are at least as bad as the Japanese counterparts.

    If this were the Japanese nuclear regulators, then I'd be worried.

    I've observed that most people on slashdot don't want their belief systems about Nuclear power challenged. People who do are modded into oblivion. The fact remains that the U.S is at least as vulnerable to these accidents because it has many of these types of reactors *still* in operation itself. Coupled with the spent fuel density in many U.S reactor installation's cooling pools and you have a recipe for disaster that rivals the Japanese situation.

    Unfortunately the lack of observable consensus between those for (pro) and against (anti) Nuclear power leaves the situation deadlocked against any pragmatic solution to the actual situation. Any form of, what I term "Responsible Nuclear Advocacy" is judged by both parties as against "their" argument when, in reality, if you observe both sides from afar you discover that while the end goal of both sides differ, the means to achieving it is the same: A geologically sound spent fuel facility in granite - built like the Rocky Mountains NORAD military facility (which is an ideal place).

    It's actually easier for most people to maintain a certain level of apathy towards the situation so they can remain untroubled by events and not challenge their "ism" and I don't blame them because it's a horrendously complex subject. It encapsulates not only an understanding of physics, but engineering, governance and regulation, political constructs, economics and legislation, medicine and, of course, the Nuclear Industry itself.

    I started off as undecided (well slightly pro) but determined to learn more and as I did became increasingly fascinated by this wonderful but also terrifying technology, after all, it's related to the atomic bomb. I encourage everyone who argues for Nuclear Power to really get an understanding of this technology. How much energy does mining take, what is the toxicity of mine tailings, what are the consequences of uranium enrichment and the relation to du weapons and the effect of CFC114 on the environment, how reactors are designed and their operational life cycle how basis design issues affect reactor operations (which lead to accidents like Fukushima AND Chernobyl) and, most importantly why dealing with spent fuel containment (and maintaining it in the U.S) is the most pressing issue that the faces humanity.

    Simply put, I have long felt that it is up to our generation to deal with the issue of spent fuel containment if we are going to receive the benefits of the energy that Nuclear fuel provides. These reactors have life spans that are measured in decades, while it's "spent" fuel is toxic to life for thousands of years. We have a responsibility to future human generation to deal with this issue permanently. If we can't solve this, the simplest problem facing the Nuclear industry (spent fuel containment) then how can we ever expect to develop better reactor technology (that I completely support), when we are simply rendering the technology pointless. What actual right do we have to this technology if we are too short sighted to see such far reaching consequences.

    I don't care if I'm modded down, I have always spoken to the truth of the Nuclear present and this argument has always been treated too flippantly on slashdot. The truth about the Nuclear industry gets modded down here because the truth about it introduces discomfiture that challenges the established dogma of the Nuclear industry and no one wants

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