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Opera 11.60 'Tunny' Released With Ragnarök HT 211

Posted by timothy
from the always-the-quiet-ones dept.
First time accepted submitter iZarKe writes "Version 11.60 of Opera Browser for Desktop was released today. Significant changes: the inclusion of their new HTML5 rendering engine "Ragnarök", a revamped address bar, full ECMAScript 5.1 support, support for CSS3 Radial Gradients (finally), and a very revamped Mail panel. Originally, these features were set to be released with their next major version, 12.00. However, due to more work needed for the hardware acceleration feature also to be included in Opera 12, the 11.60 intermediary release came to be, as they didn't want to hold back the other new features for that long a time."
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Opera 11.60 'Tunny' Released With Ragnarök HT

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  • Opera is best! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:01AM (#38279692)

    I started with IE, moved to Mozilla, migrated to Firefox, became disillusioned and switched to Chrome.

    Then I started using Opera and now all is well again, much like the switch from IE to Mozilla.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I really love Opera every time I use it... But after using Chrome for so long now, the Opera UI feels... I don't know... "Clunky"? That's not the right word at all since the UI is elegant and powerful but it's the closest I can come...

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Opera is best used with:
        a) mouse gestures enabled and customized (customization takes a little work unfortunately, not very intuitive for all options)
        b) custom menues (including the removal of navigation tools + adding buttons)

        Bookmark management in Opera seem to suck and is the only negative thing I care for mentioning, beside the crippled online bank support (happened twice the last years, very annoying imo).

    • Re:Opera is best! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Toonol (1057698) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @11:13AM (#38280744)
      That's kind of my progression. I'm just so tired of Firefox, now. I've got Chrome loaded on one machine, Opera on another, and I'm kind of seeing which to switch to. I'm leaning Opera.
      • I'm starting to become annoyed at Firefox too, but I really like to "pick and pick well" on the tools I use. I just tried Opera now, and my gmail buttons got all bunched up. Yes, a couple clicks made them unbunch later, but still. On a small webpage I am working on, for a while it was perfect in FF and it broke in Opera. Just little things, hard to remember. So I keep going back to Firefox.

        Opera's default search seems to be Bing - Microsoft. So what do we think about that?

        • by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @12:01PM (#38281542)

          Opera's default search seems to be Bing - Microsoft. So what do we think about that?

          Opera's search features are one of the most simple and time-saving features. You can click in the address bar and type "g", then what you want to search for, and it will search for that term on Google. There are several quick searches like that built-in, and it's easy to make your own. If you go to php.net, for example, and see the search field in the upper-right, you can right-click in that field and select Create Search. I used the keyword "p", so if I type "p file get contents" into the URL then it takes me to the manual page for that function on php.net. There's a search field on the top of this page also, if you want to create a quick search for Slashdot. And, as always, if you type "/." into the URL it takes you right here. Quick search keywords for wikipedia and youtube are great ways to save time when I'm trying to waste time online.

          I haven't seen Bing as the default search though, if I highlight words and right-click, the Search item takes me to Google. I may have changed that at some point though.

          • by BK553 (1835684)
            Firefox has been able to do this for long time.
            • by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @12:20PM (#38281838)

              That's nice. Maybe there's a nice Firefox thread where you can spread that knowledge. Or we can compare change logs to figure out who had it first if you're into that type of thing. My money is on Opera.

            • by Anonymous Coward

              Firefox copied it from Opera...

              • by Rui del-Negro (531098) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @12:41PM (#38282154) Homepage

                Firefox (and Chrome, and IE, and Safari) copied pretty much everything from Opera. Tabbed browsing, searching from the address bar, mouse gestures, pop-up blocking, etc., etc., all that was in Opera first (sometimes several years before the others).

                • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

                  by Anonymous Coward
                  No no no no no. Apple first. Apple first. [rocks back and forth]
                • by johny42 (1087173)

                  Firefox (and Chrome, and IE, and Safari) copied pretty much everything from Opera.

                  This is just wrong. By now, each browser has copied a lot of features from the others, but all of the major browsers had a "killer feature" that caused a lot of people to switch and allowed it to gain traction.

                  Firefox: very lightweight, excellent extension support
                  Opera: rendering speed, some advanced features
                  Chrome: stability (separate process for each tab, plugin), JavaScript speed
                  IE, Safari: come preinstalled with the OS, well integrated

                  Note that none of this is unique to the particular browser anymore

                  • some of those don't even apply anymore.

                    Right, like this one:

                    Firefox: very lightweight

                    This isn't about "killer features" though, the fact is that the "advanced features" you listed for Opera are all of the features that the other browsers are now selling. They *did* copy those features from Opera, at least in the sense that Opera thought of them first. We're not talking about a browser trying to improve Javascript speed because Chrome is fast, we're talking about specific features like gestures, searching from the address bar, and tabbed browsing. We can say "well eve

                  • Given that Opera has always been the lightest weight I am pretty shocked you would say that Firefox was the lightest weight. Maybe there is some new calibration metric here I am not familiar. So is he [wikipedia.org] a lightweight then? Sigh, so much recalibration work to do.
                • by Fjandr (66656) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @09:48PM (#38287518) Homepage Journal

                  In the case of tabbed browsing, over a decade before the others.

              • by Cinder6 (894572)

                Yes, but what's your point? If I'm going to use Opera, it won't be because it's "the original", it'll be because it has the best features and user experience of modern browsers. It's not like you're going to use Mosaic because it was the first graphical browser.

                That said, I'll check out 11.60. Opera has enough rabid fans that I check it out every now and then, but so far I've always gone back disappointed.

                • Yes, but what's your point? If I'm going to use Opera, it won't be because it's "the original", it'll be because it has the best features and user experience of modern browsers.

                  That IS the point: you can use the features now in Opera that you'll be enjoying in other browsers in the next few months or years.

          • by Narishma (822073)

            All major browsers (and even most minor ones) can do that.

            • by Fjandr (66656) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @09:55PM (#38287546) Homepage Journal

              I wasn't aware of that. So far, I've been unable to find a way to replicate the ability to create custom searches of any website that you can GET or POST to in a browser other than Opera.

              Just looked through the Chrome and Firefox menus and there's nothing. If it's functionality provided by addons, is there a name associated with it so I can actually find them?

              • In Firefox you can right click on a search text box and select 'Add a Keyword for this search' to do it. No add-ons required.
          • by naranek (1727936)

            Combining this with google's I'm feeling lucky search is quite powerful. A lot of times you know where you want to go, but don't remember the exact URL. If you have gg as I'm feeling lucky shortcut, just write gg company name or gg site name and there you go.

            • What URL do you use for that search?

              • by naranek (1727936)
                http://www.google.fi/search?q=%s&btnI=ChuckNorris

                Opera replaces %s with the query string.
                • Haha, Chuck Norris. I tried "Lucky" for the button and that wasn't working. With the Google Instant turned on I couldn't even click on the lucky button. Thanks.

                  • by Anonymous Coward

                    It's normally "I'm Feeling Lucky". I guess "ChuckNorris" is an easter egg that does the same thing.

                    E.g. you could bookmark this in Firefox:

                    http://www.google.com/search?q=%s&btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky

                    • by naranek (1727936)

                      Actually the text changes depending on your language, so it doesn't matter. The variable name is the key. btnG for normal search, btnI for I feel lucky.

        • Opera's default search seems to be Bing - Microsoft. So what do we think about that?

          Not sure if it's changed recently, but Opera was actually using split defaults... Google in the search box to the right of the address bar and Bing on the Speed Dial search box.

          You can change these default by bring up Preferences with CRTL+F12, then going to the Search tab. Click on a search engine and you can set it as the Search box or Speed Dial default.

          • I use DuckDuckGo [duckduckgo.com] (mostly). They offer the following very simple directions, for your convenience:


            Add to Opera

            1. Right-click the DuckDuckGo search box (in the page).

            2. Select Create Search.

            3. Enter d for keyword.

            4. Check Use as default search engine and Use as speed dial search engine (if you wish).

            5. Click OK.


            It's all right there on the main page, under the search field.
            • The funny thing about DuckDuckGo is that it uses Bing, which most Slashdotters hate and say returns crap results. Still they happily tell everyone to use DuckDuckGo ;-)
              • Assuming Gabriel Weinberg is true to his advertised privacy policy—and I accept this at present—that would make DuckDuckGo an engine for conducting Bing searches via proxy.

                They're welcome to use any backend they like as far as I'm concerned.
    • by treeves (963993)

      I started with NCSA Mosaic, and have cycled through a bunch of browsers including IE, Firefox and Opera, lastly Chrome.
      But lately Chrome has made my laptop very sluggish when I have many open tabs (as I usually do), so I've switched back to Opera, and I'll see how it does.
      I guess I treat browsers like furniture arrangements: I like to change them up every once in a while to keep things fresh, but there are only so many possibilities, so eventually I'll come back to an earlier one.
      Actually I

  • by CHK6 (583097) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:11AM (#38279814)
    I.E. and Chrome come from revenue generating corporations. With the recent unease of Firefox's financial tether to Google possibly coming to an end. What's keeping Opera afloat?

    On the side I'm trying out Opera right now for the next week. If all fairs well I'll move off Chrome and onto Opera as my experience with Chrome is in the "meh" stage, that's ther stage right after the honeymoon stage is over. Firefox lost me when it couldn't control the plugin version incompatibility with versions of Firefox.
    • by ledow (319597) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:13AM (#38279848) Homepage

      Being the default browser of dozens of smartphones, selling themselves on the Wii console, etc.?

      Opera make more than enough to keep themselves going, even if you can't "see" it. Hell, their entire Opera Link & Opera Turbo facilities must cost a bomb to run as it is. They'd have gone under long ago if they weren't making money.

      • by dreemernj (859414) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @11:14AM (#38280756) Homepage Journal
        And selling the engine for other things. Adobe used (uses?) Opera for Creative Suite. I think it powers the help system or some part of the menu system in that. I would imagine there are other similar uses that I've just never heard of.
      • by CHK6 (583097)
        So it would seem that Mozilla's reliance on Google, has made the organization weak financially if their funds dry up. If Opera can survive under their own broader agreements without one massive sugar daddy, then so can Mozilla with Firefox.
    • Search engine deals like with Firefox, but also Opera is HUGE in mobile and embedded boxes. Their browser is in many of those hotel tv's and stuff like that (saw the Opera logo a few times when it was starting up)
    • https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ [mozilla.org]

      This works on all my addons, and as a benefit, speeds up whitelisting for the general public.

      Luckily stuff like Firebug and NoScript routinely release versions that work even in the nightlies - have for as long as I've used them.

      I believe there's some work on trying to make compatibility checks more flexible, but I'm feeling too sick and sleepy to try finding relevant bugs, if any.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Firefox lost me when it couldn't control the plugin version incompatibility with versions of Firefox.

      I don't use a ton of extensions (maybe ~5) but the versioning problem is trivial to work around.

      Type about:config into the address bar, make a new boolean named extensions.checkCompatibility.8.0 and set it to false.

      That disables all version checks, the downside is you'll probably have to make a new 9.0 boolean when that comes out in a few months and any truly broken extensions could c

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Here is Opera's response to this question:
      http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2011/01/03/how-does-opera-make-money-aka-our-most-asked-question-ever

      (for those of you who don't feel like clicking on the link, it provides a short answer with a link to a longer answer. The short answer has something to do with underpants)

    • Firefox add-ons will soon be compatible by default with new versions: https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Features/Add-ons/Add-ons_Default_to_Compatible [mozilla.org] and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692664 [mozilla.org]
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Best browser ever!

  • FYI for Mac users (Score:5, Informative)

    by tonywong (96839) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:12AM (#38279826) Homepage
    Known issues
    Flash Player 11 crashes on Mac. We recommend disabling it or downgrading for the time being.
  • Wow. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Pionar (620916) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:14AM (#38279858)

    I have to say, after only using it for about 10 minutes, and using the developer tools, very nifty! Plus, it makes it easy to send custom-made http requests, including inserting your own headers and content body.

    With firefox, there's an extension for that called Poster.

    • Re:Wow. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by InsightIn140Bytes (2522112) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:23AM (#38279974)
      I have to agree, Opera's developer tools are top-notch. I'm just making a program that needs to read DOM-tree from websites and it comes really handy - one click in the developer tools and it shows whole page as DOM-tree and exactly the information I need.
    • Re:Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ledow (319597) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:24AM (#38279994) Homepage

      As an Opera user, I can safely say that I hear "With firefox, there's an extension for that..." about just about everything that Opera has built-in and yet Opera doesn't get in my way or require me to install untrusted random junk to do it.

      Enjoy a decent browser. Personally, I think it's one of the best ever mail clients too.

      • by residieu (577863)
        Yeah, I gave up on Firefox as my primary browser long ago because all the things I had to struggle to get Firefox to do (which tabbed browser extension do I need to make EVERYTHING open in a tab? Which session extension actually works?) just worked out of the box in Opera. I don't have any interest in tinkering with software right now, so I'm not sure how those things have improved on newer Firefoxes.
      • As an Opera user, I can safely say that I hear "With firefox, there's an extension for that..." about just about everything that Opera has built-in

        This is not a troll, so please don't take it as such. I'm genuinely trying to get away from firefox but I'm currently tied to three extensions:

        Adblock Plus (isn't everyone?): I was under the impression (read on slashdot, so YMMGV) that Adblocking on opera was sub-par (still requested the ad, and just hid it, etc... rather than blocking it completely)? Since seeing the ads is the smallest part of why I use ABP, and I'm more interested in blocking the scumbags from tracking me, then this, if true, doesn't do

        • Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)

          by Baloroth (2370816) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @11:56AM (#38281452)

          I was under the impression (read on slashdot, so YMMGV) that Adblocking on opera was sub-par (still requested the ad, and just hid it, etc... rather than blocking it completely)?

          Nope, Opera doesn't download blocked content, I just checked using Dragonfly (the built in developer tool). Blocked content only shows up as downloaded once you go to the visual click-to-block option, to allow you to see exactly what is and isn't blocked. Otherwise, in normal browsing, it doesn't download it.

          Can't speak about Noscript, as I've never used it, but there does seem to be a similar extension in Opera. PasswordMaker has an Opera Widget (which is slightly less convenient than an extension), but there is another proper extension (Password Hasher) that seems to work the exact same way. I just use LastPass, though.

        • Re:Wow. (Score:4, Informative)

          by A Friendly Troll (1017492) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @12:04PM (#38281582)

          Adblock Plus (isn't everyone?): I was under the impression (read on slashdot, so YMMGV) that Adblocking on opera was sub-par (still requested the ad, and just hid it, etc... rather than blocking it completely)? Since seeing the ads is the smallest part of why I use ABP, and I'm more interested in blocking the scumbags from tracking me, then this, if true, doesn't do me much good.

          Not true. What's blocked is blocked.

          Also, one curious thing: Opera has had blocking capabilities under the hood since version 6.02, which was out in April 2002, so that's a whole nine and a half years now. I think Opera was the first web browser that allowed you to block certain URLs natively.

          I found that the Adblock list for Opera [fanboy.co.nz]

          works quite well. At home I use AdMuncher, at work I use the list above. Never had any problems with it. It's not as advanced as ABP, but at least it allows you to unblock stuff easily - I could personally never figure out how do to that with ABP, but I could just be stupid.

          NoScript: See ABP.

          Yeah, that one isn't really there. You can turn off JS entirely for a site - it's all or nothing.

          PasswordMaker: This is a biggie at the moment. It's great for keeping a different password for every site without having to store them in "the cloud" or transfer much between machines.

          Well... "PasswordMaker solves all of these issues. It is a small, lightweight, free, open-source tool for Internet Explorer, Firefox, Google Chrome, iPhone, Opera, PHP, Windows, OS/X, Linux, Flock, Yahoo! Widgets, Android, Python, and many other platforms & systems."

          It's a widget, though.

          Or you could use the built-in Opera Link functionality. Auto-sync everything important, including passwords.

          DownThemAll would be nice too, but honestly, I use that infrequently enough that I could just fire up ChromeFox when I need it. But the other three are really tying me to this albatross.

          Kind of. Open the Links panel (Tools, or Ctrl+Alt+L), filter what you want, select, download. Again, not as advanced as this extension, but it's there.

          • Thanks both to you and to Baloroth.

            I might be able to squeak out "close-enough" use from the hints you both gave me (and Password Hasher is a GREAT find. Thank you!) to give opera a real test-run.

            I don't have it handy with me at the moment, but are add-ons like Password Hasher and extensions generally compatible between platforms (i.e. will it work on my CM7 Nook Color, too?) AIUI, "widgets" are platform specific, so I just want to make sure.

            NotScripts look like it might be near enough to noscript for my pu

          • That's a great link to urlfilter.ini. Going through that, they thought of a lot of things that I didn't. And the last update on the file was tomorrow, so you know it's current!

          • by petval (2474520)
            here is also a nice urlfilter.ini (one of many formats available here actually) generator http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/ [yoyo.org]
        • Adblock Plus (isn't everyone?): I was under the impression (read on slashdot, so YMMGV) that Adblocking on opera was sub-par (still requested the ad, and just hid it, etc... rather than blocking it completely)?

          That comment was for Chrome.

          • Nah, it's just really, really out of date, I realized after I'd posted it. The last time I looked at opera was back when it was still adware, although the reasoning they gave for it back then was pretty much teh same as the reasoning they give for Chrome now.

            I'm just glad Opera got it's crap together and started melting faces in the mobile/embedded markets, so that they made the PC version free.

            So far, it doesn't seem too bad. Some ugly Javascript I've used is a bit wonky , and I can't seem to find the dev

            • by richlv (778496)

              try right clicking anything and choosing "inspect element", i believe that gives you the dev tools (dragonfly)

      • by Tomato42 (2416694)

        I think it's one of the best ever mail clients too.

        Unfortunately it doesn't support S/MIME, let alone OpenPGP.

  • by squarelegs (2522192) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:18AM (#38279914)
    Release notes are always better when sung to a festive tune http://youtu.be/4TlPU0QWv6g [youtu.be] [Opera's Bruce Lawson giving a moving rendition of 11.60]
  • I love Opera
    • by treeves (963993)

      Me too, though I can do without the sopranos. I especially like Wagner, although I'll admit I've never sat through an entire Ring cycle.

  • Dammit, I don't want one program that does everything. I have to imagine how awesome Opera Browser would be if they weren't also focused on a mail client. And vice versa.

    • by InsightIn140Bytes (2522112) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:38AM (#38280238)
      What does it matter? If you don't want to use it, it never gets in the way. And no, it doesn't add to bloat either, Opera is really fast and lightweight. This means also their own "extensions" are since they're all coded by the same team and integrated. Of course, now a days there's real extensions too, so if you need something, you can install it really easily. And they don't break with every new version like with Firefox.
      • by jgrahn (181062)

        What does it matter? If you don't want to use it, it never gets in the way.

        Did you read what he wrote? He believes the browser would be better if Opera's developers could focus on just doing a browser, rather than a browser-and-mail-usenet-bittorrent-client-and-...

    • by fisted (2295862)
      Would mod you up if i had the points. Do one thing - and do it well. If only more programs would stick to that philosophy...
    • by dreemernj (859414)
      It doesn't seem like they really suffer from including other things. The browser is good and fast. And, on my older Linux boxes where I never bother to upgrade RAM, I use the lowram option to only load the core browser functionality at startup. I don't think bundling a few helpers is really all that serious an issue.
  • by Quantum_Infinity (2038086) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:47AM (#38280398)
    Opera is one browser I have always wanted to like and make my primary browser but have never been successful in doing it. The browser is fast and has great features but a few things have always prevented me from making it my primary browser -

    1. No RSS live bookmarks. Once I got a taste of live RSS bookmarks in Firefox, it was hard for me to read RSS feeds in any other way, no Google Reader, no RSS reader would do it. I don't want to open a separate window/program and pile up RSS feeds in there. I love it the way it is in Firefox. You just read them in a drop down menu off the bookmarks bar and they automatically get discarded as new ones come in.

    2. Website compatibility - This may not be Opera's fault but nevertheless it works against them. Lot of sites still don't work right in Opera and some flat out refuse to proceed unless some other browser is used.

    3. Per site default zoom level - These days screens have high resolutions. Lot of sites show up as very small text (Tom's Hardware is one, another in NY Times). In Chrome when you zoom a website, it remembers it forever. The next time you go to the website, Chrome shows it at the zoom level you set earlier. It remembers different zooms for different web pages. Opera has just one global default zoom setting that applies to all websites and actually lot of websites look terrible when zoomed in Opera (try Tom's Hardware). Also, Opera's rendering of input search boxes get screwed up when a web page is zoomed. Try editing a query on Google when the web page is zoomed and you'll understand what I mean.

    If they fix these three issues, I would make it my main browser immediately. For now it has to be Chrome (sigh!).
    • by pwileyii (106242) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @11:04AM (#38280628)

      I completely understand that. I'm on Opera and I've gotten so used to some of the features in Opera that I can't switch to anything else without losing things. I tried Chrome and Firefox but switched back because of a few seemly trivial features that I couldn't do without. Personally, I love the way the Opera does RSS feeds within its email reader and nothing else could do that and the speed dial works so nicely in Opera (although it works pretty well in Chrome too).

      As far as website compatibility, I think this issue is nearly gone. Opera supports masking as IE or Firefox which solves most of the very few issues that I encounter and sites that don't work correctly are usually broken in Firefox or Chrome anyway and require IE to work. I've experienced instances of a site displaying strangely in Opera and when I pull up Firefox or Chrome it displays exactly the same strange way.

      • Try Google Docs on Opera. The first spreadsheet I opened, doesn't work in Opera.

        The compatibility issues with Opera are NOT gone.

    • by petval (2474520)
      I also miss zoom per site too.
  • by pwileyii (106242) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:48AM (#38280404)

    I've been using Opera for many, many years and they are constantly innovating. The were the first browser that I know of with tabbed browsing, the first with the speed dial, among many other features. The browser has a built in mail client, which I use mainly for reading RSS feeds, which is nice because it keeps the entire history of the feed, and it also has a built in BitTorrent client, which has been convenient on a few occasions when sites have BitTorrent download links. It supports extensions, but they aren't quite as advanced as Firefox extensions, although from a security standpoint that might be a good thing and installing them doesn't require a browser restart. Opera Link is great for syncing up your bookmarks, history, speed dial, etc with all your other Opera browsers (desktop and laptop for example). Opera Turbo is similar to Amazon's Silk browser feature to use a compressing proxy, although Opera Turbo can actually detect a slow connection and only use the feature when it needs to and then only when it is turned on. I haven't really messed with Opera Unite, but it seems like a pretty cool feature which allows you to basically set up a limited web server on your own computer for sharing files, broadcasting a web cam, accessing your home media library remotely, among other things. Back in the day I had to have another browser on standby because there were many pages Opera didn't work with, now it is very rare to find pages that don't work with Opera, plus Opera supports masking the browser as IE and Firefox for those pages that perform browser checking and tell you that your using an unsupported browser.

    If you haven't tried Opera, give it a try, you might be pleasantly surprised at how advanced and slick it is.

    • I've had similarly good experiences with Opera. It's snappy and stable. In terms of nice gadgets, it's a choice between iCab and Opera, and I generally juggle between iCab and Opera on iOS. On the desktop I'm increasingly drifting over to Opera. Having DuckDuckGo included as built-in option for searches sweetens the deal.

      Yeah, the mail and BitTorrent clients will be a concern for Unix "one tool for one job" purists, but really I don't see these additional functions detracting from what is a fast and damned

  • I love Opera (Score:4, Informative)

    by acklenx (646834) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @10:59AM (#38280542) Homepage

    Gestures. Use the mouse to back, forward, close tabs, open tabs, refresh, etc

    Fast. The back button reloads the page from cache - without having to re-post form data!! (duh, chrome)

    Tabs - the tab state is saved - even if you suddenly pull the power cable from the back of your computer

  • But what does the UI overhaul have to do with Ragnar Danneskjöld? Some veiled comment on piracy, perhaps?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Hold right mouse button, then click left. That's Back function.

    Hold left mouse button, then click right. That's Forward function.

    I can't live without those anymore!

    • by unixisc (2429386)
      Why, Alt-Left & Alt-Right don't work for those? Of course, on my keyboard, I have 4 buttons on the left of all keys for Home, Refresh, Forwards & Backwards. Maybe they are re-mapped function keys.
  • Unbelievably fast. I have not used Opera in quite a while, and I just installed it to try it. It is even faster than Chrome, which seemed extremely fast compared to Firefox when I first installed it. I am running a 6 core AMD machine, and Opera basically instantly opens everything. You can't really tell that it "loads" the page just changes to the next right when you click. Amazing. My only gripe, and it's a big one, is that Opera is not open source. That might be a deal breaker.
  • oh, please, please, i hope the address bar has been revamped to what it was before... without that stupid url parameter de-lighting in annoying, barely readable grey font

  • by petval (2474520) on Tuesday December 06, 2011 @06:30PM (#38286184)
    It bothers me how Google undersupports Opera and how much effect it has on usability of their services. Plus is not working very well, for example the translation of link inserted into new stream entry does not work as in other browsers, Picasa is just lame in it, extensive usage of Javascript in Gmail can make the responses slow sometimes... Opera has to update the browser.js to make it work at least somehow.

    However I love the way how can I customize Youtube with extensions or usersrcipts, how add blocking works (btw here's a generator for common ad source in many formats, one of them is Opera's urlfilter.ini here http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/ [yoyo.org] It completely different experience to surf the web with ads blocked or not.

    Microsoft services like Technet and MSDN forums are also crippled in Opera but I know it is not Opera's fault.

    Opera is unbeaten in working with lots of tabs - try working with 30+ tabs in other browsers and compare the speed and responsiveness of the user interface. Opera link is just great - there is simply no need for services like Readitlater on Instapaper if you have Opera Mini or Mobile on your phone / tablet, the bookmarks just sync there too. If it has problems it is most probably Flash error or situation where too many extensions and/or userscripts are processing the page.

    I miss just better session manager preferably with syncing via Link.

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