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RIAA About to Transform? 217

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It has been reported for a while that the RIAA was suffering some cutbacks and dwindling support, but techdirt is reporting that the cuts may be even deeper than most originally suspected. Who knew suing potential customers would ruin your business? "I'm sure some will somehow 'blame piracy' for this turn of events, but it's hard to see how that's even remotely the issue. The real issue is that the RIAA has basically managed to run one of the dumbest, most self-defeating strategies over the last decade. Rather than helping major record labels adjust to the changing market, it continually, repeatedly and publicly destroyed its own reputation and the reputation of the labels — each time shrinking their potential market by blaming the very people they should have been working to turn into customers."
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RIAA About to Transform?

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  • by NewYorkCountryLawyer (912032) * <rayNO@SPAMbeckermanlegal.com> on Friday February 27, 2009 @07:29PM (#27018497) Homepage Journal
    Well I would imagine the excess employees will be much in demand as witnesses.
  • book publishers (Score:4, Interesting)

    by cyborch (524661) on Friday February 27, 2009 @07:39PM (#27018591) Homepage Journal
    If the book publishers are about to make the same mistakes as RIAA [slashdot.org], then at least we know where they are heading now.
  • by Dan667 (564390) on Friday February 27, 2009 @07:41PM (#27018611)
    While it is no doubt that the people who run the RIAA and IFPI have no idea what they are doing I also wonder how much of a contributing factor that people are putting 2 + 2 together and recognizing who supports the RIAA. Companies are very protective of their brands and sony, emi, warner bros, and universal do not like the negative image this is bringing them directly.
  • by mlwmohawk (801821) on Friday February 27, 2009 @07:44PM (#27018631)

    take this infantile whining to torrent freak or the playground where such anti-corporate whining isnt seen as the transparent bullshit

    I don't think we are "anti-corporate" enough in the U.S.A. They've more or less destroyed the economy with short sighted strategies that can't see past a 3 month horizon.

    Businesses move jobs over seas. Umm? Who's going to buy your product? The list of offenses is pretty long from exploitation to pollution.

    or get a job and pay for music for a change.

    Um, I use Linux, where would I buy digital music that plays on my system and has any value? I want it on my home stereo (CD, DVD, or a Linux box) and my MP3 player. (which is not an iPod)

    I buy CDs if I really like the music, but I was so disappointed with Gnarles Barkley, one good song on a whole CD, I usually go to the library and borrow CDs.

  • by Chabo (880571) on Friday February 27, 2009 @07:55PM (#27018721) Homepage Journal

    I mostly buy from a used CD store in town, and even if I find an occasional new CD there, it's well under the usual price (usually around $10 for a normal CD, I got Pink Floyd's "The Wall" for $15 new). Combine the fact that I don't care if I buy a used CD (EAC does a good job with mildly-scratched CDs) with the fact that I've only bought 2 CDs made in the last 5 years, and the RIAA probably doesn't like me, even though I'm a paying customer.

  • by HartDev (1155203) on Friday February 27, 2009 @08:04PM (#27018817) Homepage
    I am not gonna make remarks that are uber pro-piracy, but I will say this about the RIAA, they should have seen this many years ago, they were just stubborn.

    The market for blank media was not going to go away, and it was going to be filled with downloaded music, now regardless that it is illegal to download copyrighted material did not slow anyone down. And just like the article mentioned, it only soiled the name of those who tried to stop it, yeah I am talking about how people like Metallica a whole lot less.

    Being Pro or Anti piracy aside I do not feel for the RIAA losing money (if in fact they did lose any money, and if that money was a substantial amount) because they blatantly starred the changing times in the face ignored all possible opportunities it could have afforded them, and now, just like the banks and the auto industry they will cry about how the oldschool ways don't work anymore.

    I am glad that hard drives and blank CD's and DVD's are so cheap now a days!
  • by mysidia (191772) on Friday February 27, 2009 @08:12PM (#27018901)

    With RIAA Lawyers running the DOJ [cnet.com], the RIAA is transforming into a US government agency.

    Now their antics re. DoS'ing suspected torrent sites will not only be legal but an act of the gov't.

    Not only will gov't money will be budgeted for catching the file traders, and probably some money from the economic stimulus packages to help bail out the recording industry and encourage innovation, it will be a gov't initiative.

    Along with a new and improved patent enforcement department to help make it more cost-effective for companies having difficulty collecting license fees from people infringing on patents like one-click (due to millions of small infringers, and formerly expensive legal processes required to enforce a patent)

  • by uniquename72 (1169497) on Friday February 27, 2009 @08:21PM (#27018969)

    Companies...do not like the negative image this is bringing them directly.

    Neither do the artists themselves, who seem to get lost in the "OMG PIRACY IS THEFT!!1!" argument.

    It gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling to go to a concert and hear the band say, "Thank you for paying to come see us, now go download our stuff illegally and fuck the labels who are fucking us!" (No, I don't download music and am not a pirate, although I don't care if others do and are.)

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 27, 2009 @08:44PM (#27019149)

    Corporations spending money they didn't earn, working up ideas to get free anything *pay inflated maintenance costs later, but it looks great on the books now*, outsource jobs overseas, outsource data entry of your personal financial, medical and retirement records, make job cuts to cover losses due to multi-million dollar bonuses for cutting jobs previously, all while doing their best to cover up the fact that the companies are failing due to the cuts, overspending due to outsourcing (it costs upwards of 4 times as much to outsource a single position as to keep it insourced), so that the stock price can marginally rise a few cents so they can pay out a dividend and make the stock holders happy.

    yeah - that's right - corporations didn't do *ANYTHING* to mung up the economy...

    BULLSHIT you fucking idiot.

  • by indi0144 (1264518) on Friday February 27, 2009 @10:12PM (#27019725) Journal

    What does one thing have to do with the other, as if just BAD DRUGS are the source of income for Cartels in general around everywhere. May it be Coffee? yeah there is a cartel there, you don't have to shoot someone to make damage because you can pay farmers a misery for their products (as in the Colombian cartel of coffee) so they will grow dope instead, dope that it's so friking hard to sell there as nobody want that shit.

    Someone made a comic strip this year about it [cartoonistgroup.com]

    Even if it's something non related, Juan Valdez and Mule SUED the guy [dispatch.com] And he apologized rather quickly.. srcsm/ I think he was just afraid of the mule /srcsm

    So maybe now IT professionals and their high intake of Coffee, and also trendy snobs on starbucks are sponsoring drug production.

    BTW theres no Muslim Turrurists (TM) here.. the only terrorist here is the one Bushy boy help to get elected. [colombiajournal.org]

    and the oblig..

    also, fuck you.

  • Re:book publishers (Score:4, Interesting)

    by cptdondo (59460) on Friday February 27, 2009 @10:17PM (#27019765) Journal

    Yeah, too true. I quit buying music years ago when CD prices got ridiculous. I haven't bought (or downloaded) music for years. Now my daughter is getting into music, and surprisingly for our 40-years-of-age difference, our music tastes are similar, so we've been building our library.

    She's started sending me links to youtube videos of her faves. Sent one today. I gave it a quick listen at work; kind-of-liked it, went back to listen again at home and it's been taken down. Humph. No sale there.

    I end up buying about 1/4 of the music links she sends me. This just makes no sense at all - the music industry is shooting itself in the foot. All the younguns are growing up pirating music instead of buying it - because the industry has created such hurdles to getting music legally.

  • by NewYorkCountryLawyer (912032) * <rayNO@SPAMbeckermanlegal.com> on Friday February 27, 2009 @11:47PM (#27020223) Homepage Journal

    The RIAA will never really transform itself as long as the same eggheads are in charge of its member companies.

    I wouldn't call them "eggheads". I'd call them phonies.

    They are failures as business managers, and have been trying to scapegoat the blame to everyone but themselves... and have no concern for the harm they do.

    Meanwhile there are signs of a possible power shift: (1) the absence of new "John Doe" cases, (2) a possible change in lawyers (they did not use Jenner & Block on the Seeqpod case), (3) the firing of MediaSentry.

  • by Weaselmancer (533834) on Saturday February 28, 2009 @12:46AM (#27020479)

    And I hope as much as the next guy that this means what it says in the summary. The RIAA is finally getting the results it has worked so hard for.

    But it might just be the crappy economy.

    Music is a luxury item, and they're usually the first thing to go when things get tough. This might be nothing more than a consequence of the current economic picture. I've seen massive layoffs pretty much everywhere lately.

    Sorry if this dampens the mood in here. But it's worth considering. The last thing we need to do is to start bullshitting ourselves. Seeing things as they are best prepares you to deal with them.

    But that being said, this is still a good thing. The less of these goons working the better. It would be nice if it was simply their just desserts for their failed plan, but if they go out as collateral damage to our ailing economy, well...at least some good has come from that.

  • by Ciggy (692030) on Saturday February 28, 2009 @09:28AM (#27022269)
    Oddly, making a scratch worse can make it better: a CD I own had a slight scratch that would 'jam' my players at that track (it ran roughly circularly, not radially), but by making it worse by deliberately scratching it into a slight 'v' groove, the laser is able to read the data under it again and the track plays fine!
  • Re:RIAA successful? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 28, 2009 @01:30PM (#27023635)

    Until of course the DRM was killing it as we all knew it would, so it went DRM-free.

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