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Firefox Breaks 8 Million, Gets Into Guinness 199

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Punkster812 writes "Mozilla has gotten the results back from the Guinness World Records and the official number that will be set as the record is 8,002,530 downloads. The day started out a little rough for them, with server troubles during the initial launch, but once they got everything going, they were able to transfer 62,419,734 MB in 24 hours. You can get more information, including a breakdown of how many downloads each country did from around the world, by visiting spreadfirefox.com. Congratulations, Mozilla, on the new record."
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Firefox Breaks 8 Million, Gets Into Guinness

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  • by jbarr (2233) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:03AM (#24043197) Homepage

    It appears that this is the first recorded record by Guinness Book, so it's kind of arbitrary, however shuttling 62TB of data is pretty impressive. Now that the gauntlet has been thrown down, it'll be interesting to see if other software companies will try to compete. If nothing else, this gave Firefox some much-needed press.

  • by TheRedSeven (1234758) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:03AM (#24043201) Homepage
    Seriously, this is a great thing. But considering that no record existed previously, it's not exactly earth-shattering. I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share. Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US. It would be great to see a larger overseas distribution, especially considering the pledges that were signed in places like Africa.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by gparent (1242548)
      You could pick the country you signed the pledge from. Many people picked Africa for shits and giggles.
    • by ergo98 (9391) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:08AM (#24043275) Homepage Journal

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US

      I don't think the map below the entry charts just the downloads on download day, given that simply adding Canada (at 790,624 actually comprising more per capita than the US) puts it far over their record count.

      • by Slashidiot (1179447) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:58AM (#24044227) Journal
        Yes, you are right. Also, talking about per capita, is there somewhere a list of downloads per capita en each country? That would be nice to know, as total downloads mean very little (yeah, of course here in luxembourg we had very few downloads, the country is tiny!)

        Some random (a bit biased) selection of countries with downloads per capita (x1000). Data comes from the Spread Firefox webpage [spreadfirefox.com] and population from wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

        Canada 23.74
        US 25.40
        Germany 30.00
        UK 19.79
        France 15.19
        Spain 17.90
        Luxembourg 36.72

        Now, this tells me more than just downloads per country. Now Luxembourg looks better :).
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by Red Flayer (890720)
          Now you just need to normalize by access to high-speed internet, and you've got a better picture.

          Per capita means nothing when less than 10% of a country has access to high-speed internet.

          What I'd really like to see is how many people downloaded the Windows version, compared to the installed Windows base, per country.
        • by a.ameri (665846) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @03:16PM (#24049209)
          1 Lithuania 126.79
          2 Iceland 49.5
          3 Luxembourg 38.02
          4 Switzerland 37.52
          5 Norway 36.37
          6 Slovenia 35.57
          7 Finland 33.96
          8 Faeroe 33.84
          9 Estonia 33.67
          10 Liechtenstein 31.92
          11 Germany 30.77
          12 Singapore 29.43
          13 Netherlands 27.7
          14 Sweden 27.55
          15 Austria 27.19
          16 Denmark 26.11
          17 USA 25.99
          18 Hong Kong 25.04
          19 Canada 24.43
          20 Ireland 23.16
          21 Hungary 22.99
          22 Bulgaria 22.46
          23 Australia 22.19
          24 Poland 21.54
          25 Bermuda 20.71
          26 Belgium 20.53
          27 UK 20.32
          28 Latvia 19.66
          29 Israel 19.58
          30 New Zealand 19.19
          31 Spain 18.33
          32 Czech 18.11
          33 Malta 17.87
          34 Antigua & Barbuda 17.86
          35 Romania 15.78
          36 Andorra 15.69
          37 France 15.67
          38 Barbados 15.31
          39 Qatar 15.17
          40 Slovakia 15.05
          41 Aruba 14.58
          42 Greece 13.77
          43 Anguilla 13.54
          44 Maldives 13.35
          45 Croatia 13.31
          46 Italy 13.16
          47 Chile 12.8
          48 Portugal 12.68
          49 Cyprus 12.1
          50 Taiwan 11.3
          51 Japan 10.77
          52 UAE 10.52
          53
    • Presumably there was a time when no record existed for every record. It all has to start somewhere...
    • by rugatero (1292060) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:10AM (#24043311)

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US

      No, 7.7m is the current figure. The US downloaded 2.5m [amiworks.co.in] of the 8m on Download Day.

    • by Daimanta (1140543)

      "Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US. It would be great to see a larger overseas distribution, especially considering the pledges that were signed in places like Africa.
      "

      Indeed, there were a few hundred pledges from North-Korea. Anyone who knows anything about the state of the NK internet knows that it is a closed circuit.

    • by Goaway (82658)

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US.

      No. 7.7 million of some other total came from the US. Adding up the numbers on the map gets a much higher result than the 8.0 million total mentioned, so the fraction of those that came from the US is likely quite a bit lower than 7.7 million.

    • I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share.

      What? only Mozilla related products can break the record?

      WinAmp, has probably beaten this record, possibly more than once. I bet MSN Live beat it (when they forced the upgrade over MSN 7.5) iTunes, probably has, and probably a lot of other software that has notifications for new versions. The problem is, you have to actually participate, and get the Guiness people to come watch, and set up special shit on your servers, so I dont really see that many companies clamoring to beat the record, it was just a publ

    • by johnw (3725)

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US.

      Not true! The US is showing a current total of 7.7 million downloads, but that's out of a current world total of 29 million. I couldn't find a figure for how many out of the original 8 million were in the US, but it seems unlikely that all the US users did their download in the first 24 hours and then nobody in the US has downloaded it since.

    • by moranar (632206)

      Wrong. 7.7 million are the _current_ downloads from the US, not the downloads on that day. If you look, the current total is over 29 million.

    • by mqduck (232646)

      Also, 7.7 million of the total came from the US.

      I assume you just looked at spreadfirefox.com. That 7.7 million is the *current* total.

  • Good work! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by gparent (1242548) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:04AM (#24043223)
    An excellent move for Mozilla. Although I'm sure a lot of these downloads were from existent Firefox 1.5/2 users, I'm sure some of the people using Internet Explorer jumped on the FF bandwagon. Less spyware, better browsing, less bullshit. Good work.
    • Re:Good work! (Score:4, Interesting)

      by ergo98 (9391) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:19AM (#24043509) Homepage Journal

      I'm sure some of the people using Internet Explorer jumped on the FF bandwagon.

      It has been several years since there was a justifiable, logical reason to stick with Internet Explorer (this isn't flamebait, oh holy Microsoft defenders, but the truth is that Microsoft just stopped caring about the browser market, and innovation dried up. IE 7 was a groaner, and IE 8 thus far is shaping up to be more of the same), so aside from pushing Firefox into people's awareness via gimmicks like this Guinness Record, it isn't like they just need to add that one last feature for it to be compelling.

      If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

      While I hate to go there, at this point I think we need to see some apps that require Firefox (which isn't so onerous. Unlike demanding Internet Explorer, which intrinsically also demands Windows, usually at a contemporary version, Firefox runs on just about everything, and installing it doesn't change or screw with a properly running system). Offline app support, the canvas element, alongside numerous other web app bits and pieces, it really is the platform that Marc Andreesson [yafla.com] was promising a decade+ prematurely.

      • by kiwimate (458274) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:52AM (#24044137) Journal

        If people are still using Internet Explorer, it can only be explained as ignorance or complacency.

        Or personal preference. I downloaded Firefox about a year ago, tried it alongside IE for several weeks, determined there were parts I liked, parts I didn't, and ultimately made the decision that I preferred IE. It's nice to have a choice, and I have made my pick. Others picked something else, whether it be Firefox, Opera, or something entirely different. Fine. Good for them. I don't care because I have my browsing experience the way I want it and that's all I really care about.

        If Firefox works for you, hurrah. I'm not so smug and condescending that I'm going to start calling you names. Just let me have what I prefer and we're all happy. I don't care if you think I made a poor or even stupid decision, in much the same way as I don't care if a Honda driver thinks I shouldn't be driving a Toyota. Isn't that the whole point: for people to have choices and be able to choose what they prefer?

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by ergo98 (9391)

          I certainly didn't intend any holy war (though I got a chuckle out of the other poster calling me an "OSS blowhard": I'm the guy that has been called a Microsoft shill / astroturfer so many times on here that I started wearing it as a badge. I suppose zealots on either side attempt to strengthen their argument by exaggerating the positions they disagree with)

          I don't care if you think I made a poor or even stupid decision, in much the same way as I don't care if a Honda driver thinks I shouldn't be driving a

        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by Anonymous Coward

          Allow me to give you something else to chew on: if you're still using Internet Explorer, you are willfully placing a lot of burden on web developers across the globe. That can be seen as ignorant, arrogant or complacent as well. Assuming you're techno-literate, we can scratch the ignorant excuse. Especially if you put statements like this in your response:

          I don't care because I have my browsing experience the way I want it and that's all I really care about.

          Other than that, freedom of choice is a wonderful thing...

      • by BenoitRen (998927)

        Well, my extension is pretty much an application, and runs on Firefox (among others): http://msnmsgr.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org] /shamelessplug

  • the chairs that died to bring us this news....
  • North Korea (Score:4, Interesting)

    by courteaudotbiz (1191083) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:12AM (#24043357) Homepage
    Funny... nobody from North Korea downloaded Firefox 3.
    • by Absolutexero (1126491) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:18AM (#24043491)
      That's because people in North Korea are evil, the videos of them in black and white are not actually filmed in b/w, they're just so evil, they have no color.... at least that's what Lewis Black said anyway
    • Amazingly Iran has far more download than Saudi. No wonder being an US ally sucks.
      • by maxume (22995)

        That doesn't even make any sense (here be a hint: each and every NATO country is a US ally).

    • by 4D6963 (933028)

      Funny... nobody from North Korea downloaded Firefox 3.

      You mean THAT [globalsecurity.org] country? Yeah, really, how surprising. Last time I saw them on TV, they hardly had any teeth, let alone electricity.

    • by hasbeard (982620)
      Yeah, I noticed that too. Does the North Korea government even allow citizens to have computers? I doubt it.
  • Windows Update? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I wonder how downloads Windows Update gets every patch Tuesday? Automated downloads, but downloads none the less.

    • by CastrTroy (595695)
      I would imagine that it would be more counted on number of downloads of a new software product, and not updates to an existing product that people already had installed.
  • by hbean (144582) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:13AM (#24043383)

    Its amazing that over 300k people downloaded firefox from russia, despite the fact that in soviet russia, firefox downloads you. /groan

  • Firefox has finally beaten the previous Guiness record of Porn being downloaded 8,000,365 times in one day? Wow, that's some caveat.
  • Very interesting results if you check them out. I found this funny:

    (Downloads)
    China? 72,154
    South Korea? 148,006
    ...
    North Korea? 0
    • by garcia (6573)

      What I found funny was that I got an e-mail in my inbox thanking me for my participation in the download day but the name was already filled out for me [spreadfirefox.com].

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by cyfer2000 (548592)
      there were some evil companies packaged their evil extensions (addons?) with firefox and tricked people to download in China some time ago. So the brand name of Firefox is not so good in China.
  • It took me several hours after the starting time to get a download working. Anyone else have similar trouble?

    I wonder how high it would have been with more servers!

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:25AM (#24043627) Journal
    The real sign of success or progress would be when OEMs pre-install FireFox. I don't understand why the OEMs are so timid and still so tied to MSFT.

    Imagine what preloading FireFox could do to the brand-differentiation of Dell or HP. Why do they not try this obvious move but insist on fighting on price? What really is in the undisclosed agreements between the big name PC vendors and MSFT? What it would take for them to break out?

    • The real sign of success or progress would be when OEMs pre-install FireFox. I don't understand why the OEMs are so timid and still so tied to MSFT.

      The problem is that most (if not all) OEMs are stricly business. There has been no measurable outcry from their customers (who can download it anyway), and Microsoft pays them to include IE on the desktop.

      So, how about Google - I mean Mozilla - pay OEMs too? That's the only way you'll see it pre-installed.

    • by Junta (36770)

      That the actual end users explicitly seek out a piece of software, rather than settle for a defacto standard. Having users because they are too lazy to replace what the OEM gave them is, in my opinion, not as impressive.

      As to the OEMs, there is the possibility of a kickback from MS from using IE exclusively, just like other 'free software', but I would think that would perhaps be too brazen considering the whole anti-trust thing.

      Another possibility is a deep seated fear of distributing open-source software

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by f8l_0e (775982)
      It's not Microsoft they're worried about pissing off. Network Associates and Symantec pay OEMs good money to pre-install McAfee and NAV. If you promote a browser less likely to get a machine infected, and the 90 day trial AV doesn't intercept an infection, the AV makers have no reason to advertise their software on your machine.
    • Imagine what preloading FireFox could do to the brand-differentiation of Dell or HP.

      I'm imagining a big white cloud of nothing. Who buys their computer based on what browser is preloaded? Should the computer manufacturers scream in their ads about it? Is that really going to convince the masses to buy Brand X over Brand Y even beyond price, memory, disk space, etc?

      They can't (honestly) tout security, considering IE is just as secure as Firefox these days. IE has tabs, which was Firefox's only useful featu

    • I disagree. OEM adoption has little to do with the successfulness or merit of software.

      Just look at all the crapware that OEMs bundle. Mozilla.org can join with the elite if they pay the requisite bribes.

      Asus bundles Firefox with the EeePC. Is that good enough?

    • I assumed Dell preinstalled Firefox 2 on someone's computer I was cleaning up for them, since 1) it was Dell and 2) it had Firefox 2.0.0.1 instead of the then-latest 2.0.0.14 and 3) it looked like it had never been run.
  • ^__^ (Score:3, Insightful)

    by WoggyMumma (1215972) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:25AM (#24043629)

    Someone make a map like that but base it on percentage of population.

  • Pre-built binaries are for wussies — real women and men build from source [freshports.org].

    • by john83 (923470)
      Pah! Real men write the binary by hand, using the source code as a reference.
  • Holy shit! (Score:3, Funny)

    by LordKaT (619540) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:30AM (#24043733) Homepage Journal

    Russia's huge!

    • by caluml (551744)
      When speaking to a Russian, try the following lines.

      Yeah, Russia's big, isn't it? It's the second biggest country in the world after the US*.
      or
      The US* had the first satellite/man/dog in space.

      They get quite annoyed, partly, I think, due to the fact they don't know if you're serious, and that all people in the West are unaware of The Great Soviet Achievements. (They also get annoyed if you call the Mendeleev table the Periodic Table)

      * PS. I'm not American - it just works best. :)
  • by jessica_alba (1234100) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:33AM (#24043789)
    With their main industries being fishing, gold mining and timber they are unable to build a castle and advance to the internet age, hence their zero d/l stats.
  • Brilliance (Score:3, Interesting)

    by kanweg (771128) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @10:57AM (#24044215)

    And it is not just that the Firefox programmers are brilliant and creative.

    In its own way one should acknowledge the strategic brilliance of the way the record was planned. By being US centric (as in, failing to recognise that there is something like human beings abroad), the 24 hour period was set to start such that people in countries like NZ, AU and JP were frustrated in not seeing the new version when the due date arrived, (or downloaded old stuff, ha ha). For those who waited, they were joined by hoards of Europeans and Brits (I'm sure they appreciate this gesture) who had to wait until the evening before they could join the Americans to swamp the servers. Those Europeans who gave up before local 12 PM and didn't realise that they could still help to set the record by downloading it in the morning, also failed to add to the number of copies downloaded. So, in short, the Mozilla organisation has made it easy for themselves to beat their own record, provided they are brilliant enough to recognise the rude brilliance of the first record attempt.

    Bert

  • When I get into Guiness, the next day I'm hungover and in no position to code. How they managed to achieve eight million downloads is beyond me.

  • by Yvan256 (722131) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @01:31PM (#24047263) Homepage Journal

    I would've liked to see stats per operating system too.

  • I'm Impressed.... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by RobDude (1123541)

    FireFox stagged a publicity stunt and a bunch of anti-ms fanboys ate it up like candy.

    First, FireFox asked/begged people to all download on a particular day to break this record. I've never been 'asked' to download any other piece of software on a particular day to break any record.

    Second, what was the existing record? *GASP* you don't mean to tell me there *wasn't* an existing record? Well then....that's not really all that impressive - is it? WoW supposedly has 9 million users, and come patch day they

  • 23 downloads from the Falklands... so, the whole population uses Firefox then?
  • First impression is that it compiled much, much faster on Gentoo.

    I am not much a fan of this theme and no-one has built a 'firefox2' theme for Linux. There is one for Windows and a beta for OSX. The author of both claims that it looks a lot like the old theme already.

    I call bullshit. The old theme didn't use the Tango Icon Set... which I am not very fond of. It's free, sure, but just doesn't look right compared to the old version.

    I am updating the rest of my system right now so it's a tad slow... we'll see

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