The Best Tech You Can't Get in the US 354
DigitalDame2 writes "The US isn't always on the cutting edge of technology. We see a new product release that has just the blend of styling and features we've been looking for, but alas, it's only available overseas. From the Thanko MP4 watch to Sony's OLED TV, these are the hottest new gadgets to drool over, that you can't get here."
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I'm not usually one to rag on the editors for shitty or misleading summaries, but that one was completely pointless.
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The truth is that dealing with the U.S. really is just more hassle than it's worth in an increasing number of areas. I don't hate Americans by any stretch, but the litigiousness and brutal sense of entitlement shown by the American populous in general has just driven a few of us to throw our hands up and say "No more" when it comes to business dealings.
So, call me what you want, and take this post for whatever it's worth to you -- it doesn't make any difference to me. But, there's a wide gap between being a bigot and being one who learns from personal misery and that of others.
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- They appear to really believe that "the customer is always right" without any limitations whatsoever, and that I should be willing to compromise absolutely anything to satisfy unreasonable requests. I'll happily go out of my way to keep customers satisfied when my product fails, but I've also been called an "asshole" because I wouldn't replace a device for free, including the cost of shipping, that an American customer's kid had run through with a knife.
- They're not very friendly. When I receive e-mails or phone calls from American clients, the e-mail almost never starts with "hello" or any other greeting, and the phone conversations usually start with "yeah, I'm..." They also just hang up when they're done talking, and there's often no "goodbye" or anything.
Personally, I've never been stifled by the U.S. patent system or anything, but I do find dealing with U.S. customers to be trying---they tend never to be satisfied, and they treat me like the enemy because I'm at this to make a living. I like to think of myself as a fair businessman, but I never get the feeling that I'm viewed that way by my American customers.
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I live in America and if I had to deal with people like what you describe I'd probably either move or kill myself. While I do run into people like this from tim
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I'm sure you're not all rude, but I'd say the general level of customer politeness in the US is pretty low compared with other parts of the world.
I was on holiday in Breckenridge, Colorado a few years back - one day when grabbing lunch from a stall I was told by the guy behind the counter that I was first person of the entire day to actually say "please"
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Or things that are region encoded, and/or not available in the English language?
There are certainly ways that the U.S. can lag behind in tech gadgets. Available services and localization account for this.
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OQO anyone? (Score:2)
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Um, the summary was pretty much taken from the title of the article, and it's reasonably well borne out. Also from TFA:
Not surprisingly, the majority of products we found are cell phones and PDAs not stocked by US cell phone carriers.
So yeah, maybe you can get that shiny new Japanese phone in the US, but it's not exactly useful. It's probably true that there are very few high-tech items you
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I'm fairly certain that all of the HTC devices (Touch Dual, S630, S730) have full or nearly-full functionality on either U.S. GSM carrier.
Touch Dual - Probably the least functional. It's only tri-band GSM, and only does UMTS2100, so no UMTS (3G) in the U.S. and might have issues with normal GSM service in the U.S.
S630 and S730 - Both are quad-band GSM (Works on T-Mobile or AT&T) and support UMTS8
US, a technological backwater? (Score:2)
I feel like repeating my comment [slashdot.org] from a few days ago.
Re:US, a technological backwater? (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdot seems to think consumer technology = technology in general. It's just not true.
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Now... if we only had a base with people in it!!!
Re:US, a technological backwater? (Score:5, Insightful)
How many countries outside the US have a working rover on the surface of Mars?
How many countries outside Europe have landed a probe on Titan? How many countries outside USSR have landed probes on Venus (in the 1970's!). Of course, if you handpick the criterion for being on the cutting edge of technology..
That is the american way (Score:3)
Remember the space race, all of sudden it was to land a man on the moon. That was IT, goal completed, end of race. Nevermind that the USSR then went on to spend year after year with a continues manned space presence breaking record after record while the americans blew up, that didn't count. That was the goal the americans said had to be reached, that is what they reached first, therefore they won.
It is amazing really, american standups never got tired of joking of Mir when it was in its final stages (neve
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You're not there yet, but you're heading in that direction.
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Diesel cars like they have in Europe could be nice, but if the price of diesel fuel increases much more it won't be worth it.
Love of technology for its own sake is great -- don't get me wrong. But if a given nation's consumers as a whole decide that they don't need a particular technological advance, they aren't automatically wrong or ignorant. It's important not only to have technologica
UMPCs (Score:2)
I don't know what a UMPC is either, so it just isn't as drool-worthy as a good countersink flange [jt.org].
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Next up on slashdot: New use found for Thiotimoline! [wikipedia.org]
-mcgrew
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So basically if you don't know what it is you don't need it, if Sony makes it you don't need it, and if it's a competing product with new/improved features you don't need it. Basically to sum everything up you don't need anything. How in the hell did you ever buy a computer if you're so dead set agains
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Maybe if I'd clicked on each of the twenty pictures after clicking on TFA and then clicking on the other TFA I'd agree with you, but I didn't see anything revolutionary. What was there that I can't get? TFA didn't say, and neither did you.
And yes, if Sony makes it I don't need it. I'll buy one from a company I can
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So, let's see. You're too lazy to look up the meaning of an acronym, so you just assume that it's something you don't need or want.
You've got a Slashdot account, you encounter some technology you don't recognize, you neglect to Google it, but you don't hesitate to form a negative opinion
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Conversely Americans tend to buy the same 3 gadgets (an iPod, a Razr, a Blackberry),
Flying Cars? (Score:2)
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it's for a reason (Score:3, Funny)
They *need* cutting-edge displays like that to keep up with the continuing advances in tentacle hentai technology.
The US (Score:4, Interesting)
The US is a mixed bag, on average it's far behind the technology curve. It's not population density because Canada is less dense but more in touch with technology. Some areas and industries are cutting edge but the average American seems pretty low on the tech literacy totem. At least from my interactions with Americans on trips there and on visitors here.
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The US "lagged behind" Europe in mobile phones because of the way phone service in the US is priced. Local calls which in the US tend to cover a large area are free on land lines. That is one of the big reasons that the US lagged in broadband.
I thought it very funny that when I was in the UK that I shocked people because I knew what the battle of Trafalgar was.
The simple fact is that the US will almost always come off looking bad when you compare what US citizens know about a country and what the people in that country know about the US. Just about everybody knows about the US. But I would bet very few people in say the UK know much about the history of Japan. Or that many Japanese know much about the politics of Norway.
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Very true. But isn't doesn't the rather absurd comparison of Norwegian knowledge of Japanese history form a strawman argument? The US tends to come off looking bad without any comparison to other countries e.g. proportion of passport holders, percentage of people able to locate the countries they're currently invading on a world
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Not really I was shocked because a large number of people that I know from the US would know it also. I found it interesting that people in the UK had a preconceived idea that an American wouldn't know what the battle of Trafalgar was. I would be willing go guess that a large number of people in the EU wouldn't have a clue about the battle of Mobile Bay or the battle of the Alamo. History isn't everybody's thing.
And no my comment about someone from N
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I think the opinion of the UK is tainted by films in the 80s which joked about the popularity of cable TV.
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The result of a decades long decline in the quantity (and sometimes the quality) of the mathematics, science, and technology education in the primary and secondary school systems of the United States combined with a simultaneous and increasing trend towards outsourcing science and engineering related jobs (a one two punch really). There are still gifted stude
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However, it is not hunderds of billions/year. Bear in mind that when the US government quotes a number of dollars given for aid they choose to include the inflated costs of weapons and 'counter-insugency' training given to 'allies'.
I only mention it because most people think of food and shelter when they hear 'aid'.
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I don't think you realize how tiny our military has gotten compared to 12 years ago when Clinton shutdown so many of our bases and reduced the military force.
The next World War will probably see us on the losing side, we
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The number of active duty men and women in the U.S. armed forces as of Jan. 31, 2003 ... 1.4 million. link [census.gov] ...but numbers don't tell the whole story [google.com]. People that were shown the door a decade ago are now let in without question. Timothy McVeigh had to be happy with militia membership in his day ...now he'd be on the streets of Baghdad.
Let's not forget w
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McVeigh served in the US Military and was awarded the the Bronze Star during his service in the Gulf War. He went wacko after he left the Military.
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Who else could? It's all relative. The US might not have millions of fighting men ready to go or the infrastructure to pump out dozens of battleships a month, but every other "world power" has seen their military prowess decreased at a far greater proportion than the US over the same period of time.
There is a big difference between attacking and holding a country that you don't understand,
Fight to win? (Score:2)
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Wow, how ... (Score:5, Insightful)
UMPCs
Laptops
TVs
Media players (including a watch with a screen guaranteed to give you eyestrain)
Phones
Yeah, great stuff.
I guess I'm odd then (Score:2, Insightful)
Ooooh, and oled tv. Again, who cares?
Most people I know don't wear digital watches, or carry music players. Then again, I don't hang around with college kids, and instead associate with people that do not live and breathe the crap put out that's considered "entertainment" these days.
Get off my lawn! Damn kids....
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No, a stylish young woman I know was remarking yesterday about wanting a certain watch, and I said "why? You have a cell phone!" She just liked the design and color, it would be like a bracelet to her.
But watches are obsolete. We have cell phones now, and they all have a clock on them. I guess iof you like redundant technology one might come in handy.
Instead of a phone with a clock on it, I'd like to have a watch with a phone in it! Now THAT would be cool!
-mcgrew
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The omnipresent cell phone with a clock that sets itself via network access to extreme accuracy has pretty much killed the need for most people to have a watch.
I don't have a watch because I need accurate time. I have a mechanical watch because:
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Oh, stop the lamentations... (Score:3, Insightful)
Most of today's consumer-electronics available in US are designed and/or made elsewhere.
That some of the stuff is not available here is not, in itself, the sign of US lagging behind, but rather that of US consumers not being interested enough for the companies to introduce these particular products here.
If root beer is not (widely) available in Japan, it is because the Japanese don't like root beer — not because they can't afford it, or don't know where to get it.
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But other things are kept out due to patent issues, and other sorts of regulatory absurdity. The few Cuban cigars brought into the country change hands for astronomical sums compared with what they sell for everywhere else, so the market obviously wants them.
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When the Cuban embargo is lifted, I expect that there will be an explosion in the sales of Cuban cigars. Mostly due to afficianados wanting to try out 'the best', and 'the forbidden'. However I would imagine that sales of such cigars would fall to the
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No sales != no demand (Score:2)
What if root beer was difficult to transport far from the farm and only grew well in the US. Or Japan had a steep tariff on root beer. Or laws or companies conspired to prohibit you from making said device even if there were demand? What if the root beer made in Japan was a drastically inferior quality and no one would drink it?
There's a good
No sales == insufficient demand (Score:2)
That would be lamentable... Can you demonstrate anything of the kind actually happening with the products listed in the article (or closely related ones)?
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2) Buy RCA to 9mm audio cable
3) Plug record player into PC audio "in"
4) Record to your vinyl to any format under the sun, probably for half the price of $device.
5) No profit, but you probably saved a few bucks.
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If root beer is not (widely) available in Japan, it is because the Japanese don't like root beer -- not because they can't afford it, or don't know where to get it.
And likewise, if I can't get a sub-notebook computer (think Palm Foleo form factor) here in the US, it's because joe-sixpack can't seem to find a use for it. Regardless of how much I would like to have a notebook computer with QWERTY keyboard that fits in my pocket (and doesn't cost as much as a server!), I can't get one. Palm cancelled t
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After all, why would you produce something that would sell a million units when, for the same engineering effort, you could sell 100 million?
The argument is not about the engineering effort, IMHO, because that effort has already been spent on these gadgets - they are already mass produced and for sale to the general public - just in a different country. The effort required to sell them in a new country is simply that of rejigging the marketing and translating the instruction manuals. I'm sure if a corporation thought that they could shift a million units by just translating the manual and pushing some ads, they'd do so.
The Thanko MP4 OLED Video Watch.... (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/8e18/ [thinkgeek.com]
Is the same one listed in the PC Mag article:
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=217864&s=1562&a=217876&po=13,00.asp?p=y [pcmag.com]
So it looks like you can get at least one of these items in the US.
You're wrong (Score:2)
This article and description are sensationalist, but the fact remains that patent law in the states is broken. It hampers innovation and keeps great products from being made or sold here.
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Anyway, I can't imagine buying such a thing. Why would I possibly want a video player strapped to my wrist?
Hard up for articles? (Score:2)
Are these really that unique? (Score:4, Interesting)
Some of the UMPCs were nice, but again, aside from the addition of colors, none were significantly better than what can be obtained here.
Americans are poor (Score:2, Insightful)
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my take on the gadgets (Score:2)
UMPC's in general are met with a big yawn here, and the iPhone may well kill them off for good. The integrated TV tuner is a pretty killer feature though, though the price of the average UMPC will still chase people away the same as it did for tablets.
We don't much like cutesy anthropomorphic gadgets in the USA. And there's other "jostleable" players out the
Why are we worried about this? (Score:2, Insightful)
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If the only thing we're missing from "cool new tech in Japan" is an egg-shaped music player that gyrates around (obviously eating up the battery charge at a must faster rate than normal players), a bunch of wanna-be "iPhone killer" cellphones with various pluses and minuses, and 1 OLED TV set (a technology we're sure
I'm gonna go ahead with... (Score:2)
100mbit internet for $20/month.
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Not all so impressive... (Score:2)
Sony Rolly - I'll pass. (Score:3, Funny)
Although I'll gladly pay to import whatever drugs the Sony execs were taking when they gave this thing the green light.
"Americans have fat fingers" (Score:2)
Tiny laptops have never caught on in the US, although they've been around for years. "Americans have fat fingers". You can certainly get one in the US if you want one, but they're don't sell well. The Via Nanobook is a reasonable choice, and Sony has a whole range of them. Then there are the UMPC machines, which are little laptops partially usable without a keyboard.
Designers are still struggling in the "too big for a phone, too small for a laptop" niche. There's a long history of duds in that space.
Well the hotels are more advanced. (Score:3, Interesting)
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Raon Everun (Score:2)
Typo... (Score:2, Funny)
"The US isn't ever on the cutting edge of technology...
There, fixed that for you.
Difference in Consumer Safety, Rights (Score:2)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=NMSgAs7VLTI [youtube.com]
the only thing I'd get (Score:2)
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If you want it to stay that way, don't take it for granted. The economic markers point down right now. If this trend continues you may see a day when the US isn't such a important market.
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Vehicle import laws in Canada are pretty protectionist too, though our exemption for private imports is "only" 15 years. Once landed, it's not difficult to register and license just about anything.
We currently have a lot of early 1990s Japanese imports running around B.C. Hell, I bought one myself (1992 Mitsubishi Delica, a 4x4 diesel minivan). The Authorities are certain something is terribly wrong [icbc.com] with the situation, but can't quite figure out what, no matter how much money the car dealers give them to
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Of course there are plenty of eurosport vehicles that also qualify for the "can't get in the US", I'm into the militutilitary flavors.
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Just look at cars, TVs, household appliances, household/consumer tech in general, like phones etc.
The technological advantage in the US is where decades of DoD funding created spinoffs like the semiconductor industry.