The Smiley Face Turns 25 :-) 250
klubar writes "Another milestone of online communications has been reached. The smiley turns 25, according to Carnegie Mellon University professor Scott E. Fahlman who says he was the first to use three keystrokes. 'Language experts say the smiley face and other emotional icons, known as emoticons, have given people a concise way in e-mail and other electronic messages of expressing sentiments that otherwise would be difficult to detect. Fahlman posted the emoticon in a message to an online electronic bulletin board at 11:44 a.m. on Sept. 19, 1982, during a discussion about the limits of online humor and how to denote comments meant to be taken lightly.'"
24? (Score:5, Interesting)
I know we were using these on a message board in 1979-1980 at a community college in Michigan prior to then. I might even be able to dig some of it up as I printed off a lot of messages back then and may still have them in an old computer paper box.
Rather odd anyone would lay a claim to inventing it. I'm certain the concept dates further back to teletypes and such.
Ah well, anything to start a ruckus on
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Graphical smilies suck (Score:5, Interesting)
I won't even get into how annoying it is when it changes part of your text that isn't a smiley into a smiley only because it detects the text. It is like how some MMORPGS do ***umption and stuff.
Spam will be 20 soon. I claim first use, Nov 1987. (Score:4, Interesting)
http://beyond.jeannettecezanne.com/2007/08/05/the-origins-of-spam/ [jeannettecezanne.com]
Here's the original posting.
http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/b7ce97a77276e16f?q=ken+weaverling+spam+usenet+first&hl=en&rnum=1 [google.com] Paul
The only thing I see wrong... (Score:5, Interesting)
Is the guy is full of shit in making such a claim. ASCII Art, including the use of emoticons, have been around a lot longer than his first use of it. To claim he was the first and/or created the idea is insane.
I'm sorry, but I grew up in the 300 baud modem, emoticon existing and using days that predate his claim by over half a decade.
Re:24? (Score:3, Interesting)
As odd as, say, someone keeping printouts of 25+ year old conversations from community college message boards? ;)
We had some great discussions. We experience flame-wars (gun control as one I recall vividly), angry crapflooders, ALL CAPS, etc. Pretty well everything you see now came about the moment you threw a VT52 terminal and message system at people through which they could chat with anonymity. Heck, we even had cyber stalkers, those who wanted to find out who was using a certain name on the system (you could hit Ctrl-T and see which terminals were which TTY numbers, and the messages included TTY numbers in their headers.)
Strange it may have seemed, but I certainly wish I had kept more. They stuff is priceless and I have some good memories of those days. Still in touch with some of the geeks I chatted with back then.
A weird, possibly local, BBS lingo (Score:5, Interesting)
(g) - grin
(bg) - big grin
(vbg) - very big grin
I wonder if it was just a local thing, or if anyone else used to use that too.
You're kidding, right? (Score:3, Interesting)
Just because it's on the computer, it must be new!
I know I saw them in a military communications in '84 during transatlantic tests. 2 people, many hours away really,really tired tend to get punchy...I wonder this is the person I was communicating with? That would be weird!
Prior Art? (Score:5, Interesting)
http://maul.deepsky.com/~merovech/smiley.html [deepsky.com]
I claim the "bearded bulletin" (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:You mean Smiley vs. Smiley Face? (Score:5, Interesting)
It's authorship was credited to the late Harvey Ball (who drew it in the 1960s). "Smiley" is in an ad in the NEW YORK HERALD TRIBUNE, 10 March 1953, pg. 20, cols. 4-6. See for yourself. The ad is for the film LILI, with the "delightful" Leslie Caron. The "World Premiere Today" is at the Trans-Lux 52nd on Lexington. The film opened nationwide, and this ad ran in many newspapers.
Today
You'll laugh
You'll cry
You'll love
_Lili_
I looked up where the Japanese smiley came from (Score:5, Interesting)
http://whatjapanthinks.com/2007/09/19/turns-25-but-how-old-are-japanese-emoticons/ [whatjapanthinks.com]
So as not to link whore (but karma whore instead...), here goes:
You may have heard the news that 25 years ago on the 19th of October 1982, there was the first recorded use of western smileys on usenet. However, that got me wondering as to how old horizontal Japanese emoticons were. With a little investigation, I came across this Japanese page on the evolution of smiley marks in Japan. I'll now present a summary translation of this history of the Japanese emoticon.
First up is a nuclear scientist claiming to have invented (~_~) and others round about the same time as ASCII Net (a Japanese online service) started on the first of May 1985, although he says he wasn't the first, he was just following the patterns of others.
Next up was someone claiming that when he attended Hokkaido University the first Japanese emoticon he saw was from Master Koala with (^O^) in fj.jokes, inspiring him to invent the following:
(^.^) - laughing
(;.;) - crying
(-.-) - sleeping, shocked
(_ _) - apologising, lowering one's head
; - sweat mark, eg (^.^;)
* - red-faced, eg *^.^*
These were coined between May and July of 1988 and used on JUNET, the Japanese University Network.
Now, we get to a usenet post from January 13 1998, indirectly archived by Google Groups (but with broken encoding). In the message we can see the following marks:
(^O^) - Master Koala smiling
(-O-) - Master Koala sleeping
(*O*) - Master Koala shocked
(@O@) - Master Koala looking sideways
(=O=) - Master Koala squinting through narrowed eyes
(>O<) - Master Koala surprised
(dOb) - Master Koala neutral
Now we get a very interesting post, suggesting that the classic (^_^) was invented in Japan, but perhaps not by a Japanese. A Kim Tong Ho claims that in the first half of 1986 he signed posts to ASCII Net with the above-mentioned emoticon, with one example from 20th of June 1986. However, he doesn't have confidence to claim to be the very first person to come up with a Japanese emoticon that doesn't require head-tilting to read. Around the same time a person with the handle 'binbou' (the nuclear scientist mentioned above) used (~_~), but as to who was first, it is rather difficult to say.
So, there we have it; the Japanese emoticon is at least 21 years and a few months old, perhaps even 22 and a bit years old.