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Microsoft, Sony Clash Over Vista Turbo Memory 161

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the why-can't-we-just-get-along dept.
Anonymous writes "Sony is claiming that the current release of Vista does not support Intel's Turbo Memory technology, but Microsoft has dismissed the allegation. If Microsoft is telling the truth then all is well. But if Sony is right, Microsoft has opened itself to being sued for deceptive marketing practices."
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Microsoft, Sony Clash Over Vista Turbo Memory

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  • Hmmm. (Score:0, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 10, 2007 @10:28AM (#19457847)
    "If Microsoft is telling the truth..."
  • So, sue me (Score:4, Insightful)

    by mangu (126918) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @10:30AM (#19457867)
    if Sony is right, Microsoft has opened itself to being sued for deceptive marketing practices."


    That wouldn't be the first time Microsoft was sued. What does Sony have that the US-DOJ doesn't?

  • Re:So, sue me (Score:5, Insightful)

    by speaker of the truth (1112181) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @10:41AM (#19457931)
    Its pretty telling and sad when the company responsible for root-kits has a higher regard among us then the DoJ.
  • Re:So, sue me (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Sunburnt (890890) * on Sunday June 10, 2007 @10:50AM (#19457967)

    Its pretty telling and sad when the company responsible for root-kits has a higher regard among us then the DoJ.

    True. I don't buy CDs, though, and all I know is that my Sony has, for years, provided clean, crisp images of such things as the incompetent lackey in charge of the DoJ, lying desperately in order to cover his political ass. In fact, when I first purchased the Sony, it provided great imagery of his predecessor explaining the need to ruthlessly prosecute pornographers and head shops.

  • Re:From TFA: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Timesprout (579035) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @11:13AM (#19458093)
    So are you trying to say one marketing droid is more credible than another? The whole turbo memory issue is dubious at the moment. Under certain load conditions and system configurations it does appear to offer decent performance improvements but can frequently degrade general performance. It's currently more attractive to the manufacturers than the end user though because it's a lot cheaper for them to put in flash memory rather than ram and let the user take the performance hit. I'm curious about what happens when the flash memory fails. Have you got a new paperweight or does the OS just ignore it and carry on with the ram available? HP have opted against it as well because they feel theres no substantial benefit from what is still quite immature technology.
  • by keithjr (1091829) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @11:36AM (#19458217)
    Is Turbo Memory technology hardware that is designed and built around an OS (Vista)? That seems to be a very peculiar (read:bad) idea. What does it mean for other users who intend to utilize different operating systems? Is there a loss of performance or just an added feature that cannot be used?
  • by djmcmath (99313) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @11:53AM (#19458317)
    (rant)
    Does anyone actually remember when "turbo" had a technical definition beyond "really fast?" Does anyone realize that, in the computing world, "turbo" is essentially meaningless? (Go ahead, demonstrate for me how you pressurize the incoming bitstream mix using the processor bitstream exhaust pressure...) Or has the influx of market-roids slapping a "turbo" badge on any slightly-faster-than-last-year's technology made this term utterly useless?
    (/rant)
  • by MBCook (132727) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Sunday June 10, 2007 @11:55AM (#19458327) Homepage

    I remember seeing an article about that. The first had one transistor, then two, then three. Then people kept adding transistors and claiming it made their radio better. While some actually did that, the article had pictures of radios where off on a part of the circuit board that wasn't connected to anything there would be 3 or more transistors just soldered onto the board, no connections. They would buy bad transistors and just stick them in, not even using them as diodes, so they could call it a 5 transistor radio.

    Frankly, I believe Sony in this case. Getting the algorythim right for this would be tough. It woudn't surprise me if the one MS made is currently ineffective. It will take time to find a better one.

  • by anno1602 (320047) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @12:17PM (#19458473)
    (rant)
    Does anyone actually remember when "turbo" had a technical definition beyond "turbocharger"? Does anyone realize that, in the engineering world, all that "turbo" means is "involving turbines" (go ahead, demonstrate me how you pressurize the incoming steam mix using the turbogenerator exhaust pressure)? Or has the the influx of market-roids dropping the "charger" on any turbocharged piston engine made this term utterly useless?
    (/rant)

    SCNR.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 10, 2007 @12:23PM (#19458521)
    Relax.

    Turbo has come to mean fast ever since the days of the BMW 2002 Turbo and Porche 911 Turbo. Many outsiders who did not understand what a turbocharger was, were told it just makes the car fast. So natuarally, turbo became another euphemism for fast.
  • The Turbo Button! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Man in Spandex (775950) <prsn DOT kev AT gmail DOT com> on Sunday June 10, 2007 @12:50PM (#19458693)
    The death of "Turbo" was when the Turbo Button stopped appearing on computer cases :X Now wasn't that cool or what, you had TURBO and the speed of your procesor was indicated on a led display.
  • by Tim Browse (9263) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @02:13PM (#19459231)

    ...Sony have a fecking clue about software.

    The day I trust Sony's views on what makes good software is the day I call up Satan for his advice on which Snow-Plough model gets you to work fastest.

  • by Hektor_Troy (262592) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @02:17PM (#19459255)

    Why anyone would expect this to work 100% till the first service patch is beyond me.
    Why anyone would expect brakes on cars to work 100% till the first service visit it beyond me.

    Yes, I know the car analogy is always flawed, but why the hell should we always expect to have to wait $deity how long till the company decides that they'll finish getting things working?

    If they say they support $techonology, I expect them to support it. Not halfway or a quarter way. Same with cars - if they advertise a car as having a feature, it bloody well has to have the feature, not just half of it or something like that.

    Why should software be any different?
  • Re:So, sue me (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DMaster0 (26135) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @04:45PM (#19460119)
    wait, who's in positive regard?

    Sony? The rootkit installing, graffiti sponsoring over priced pusher of mediocre quality products?

    Microsoft? Of course not, we're on slashdot after all...

    the US Department of Justice? After the media coverage of the Paris Hilton ordeal and the fact that millions of people now realize that convicted people in most cases only serve %10 of their time and even less if they're rich socialites... followed by the abrupt reversal of the status quo to put the rich socialite in jail to the fullest extent of her sentence rather than getting treated like any other common probation violator... I'd say the average American is rather unsure of where they stand with regards to the justice system in the US and I'd suspect that money would have a lot to do with it today in any case.

    they're all pretty shady in their own respects if you ask me, and it all seems to come down to money.
  • by KarmaMB84 (743001) on Sunday June 10, 2007 @10:00PM (#19461699)
    Probably because everyone stuck with massive PS libraries and not enough money to afford a PS3 are replacing their broken shoddy POS PS2s. Sony seems to be the master at building products that last until about a month out of warranty then suddenly drop dead.

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