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20 Years of Bill Gates Predictions 269

NewsCloud writes "The Seattle PI's Microsoft Blogger Todd Bishop asks "How does Gates shape up as a seer?" None strike me as particularly clairvoyant, but the missed ones are winners: "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time." and "Two years from now, spam will be solved." But in fairness to Gates, for many years Microsoft's tagline was "a PC on every desktop and in every home.""
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20 Years of Bill Gates Predictions

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  • CEOs are not seers (Score:5, Insightful)

    by eln ( 21727 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:11AM (#19208231)
    The problem is, Gates made most (if not all) of these comments in order to push efforts that Microsoft was working on at the time. As a CEO of a major software company, part of his job was to make comments in public that would try to influence the industry to move in the direction that would align with what his own company was doing (or at least attempting) already.

    These sorts of comments can often be successful at moving the industry because people automatically equate wealth and power with wisdom. In this way, they take what is basically a marketing statement and turn it into some sort of prophecy. Gates was right on some of these because his own company took the industry in that direction. Where he was wrong, it was because his own company failed in its efforts in that area, or (in the case of OS/2 especially) they decided to go in a different direction.
  • OS/2 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by C_Kode ( 102755 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:13AM (#19208251) Journal
    "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time."

    Two points here. First, he was selling the product when he said this, and secondly he was actually right in the idea of it. It just happen to be Windows and not OS/2. Microsoft attacked the general market. IBM only knew about dealing with businesses. Once Microsoft moved away from OS/2 and went full bore on Windows, OS/2's days were numbered even though OS/2 had a lot of things going for it over Windows.
  • by JustASlashDotGuy ( 905444 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:16AM (#19208285)
    Business man makes business predictions about the future. Some are right... some are wrong!

    And in related news.... critics choose to focus only on the predictions that were wrong!

    * Personally, I really loved OS/2. It's wasn't the best piece of software *ever*, but it was truely remarkable for it's time. I wish MS would have stol^h^h^h borrowed more ideas from it.
  • by jimstapleton ( 999106 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:23AM (#19208359) Journal
    You've never talked to what could be considered an "average" manager, have you?

    Many people would see such arguments as silly, and blatant advertising, but for some reason, management often sees people who are able to make a lot of money as founts of wisdom in all matters.
  • by Mahjub Sa'aden ( 1100387 ) <msaaden@gmail.com> on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:25AM (#19208389)
    Read the article. Most of the quotes aren't either right or wrong; most of them are simply mundane, and were mundane when he made them. Read every single quote and see if you don't say, "Well DUH!" in your head a bunch of times.

    Maybe the article sucks, or Bill's holding his crystal ball close to the boardroom, but it's all pretty standard stuff.
  • Augur the Seer... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Vexler ( 127353 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:28AM (#19208419) Journal
    The only "seer" of technology for me is Augur [efc.com], and he doesn't use Windows.

    At any rate, only a person with truly innovative and revolutionary approach has the insight to guess how technological advances will influence societies. Gates' approach has been to buy out companies he can't compete with, and then re-branding the acquired products. It was true with PC-DOS v1.0, and it continues to be true to this day.

  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:30AM (#19208431)
    Hey, they HAVE to be right, after all, they make a shitload of money!

    Don't you dare questioning the way of the money! Money makes right! Ask any congressman next time he discusses matters with mafiaa representatives.
  • by DJCacophony ( 832334 ) <v0dka@noSpam.myg0t.com> on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:31AM (#19208443) Homepage
    Spam HAS been solved, it's just that most people aren't implementing the fix. Use Gmail if you don't want to set up your own filtering system.
  • by Chris Burke ( 6130 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:33AM (#19208465) Homepage
    One common theme in literature is the question of whether oracles predict the future, or create it. Would Oedipus have killed his father had the Oracle at Delphi never prophecied that he would and thus his father never sent him to die in the wilderness? Had the witches not said that Macbeth would not be harmed by any of woman born, would he have gone down the path that led to him being killed by the C-section-birthed Macduff?

    Which relates to what you said in that Gates is trying to be the non-supernatural form of seer -- the one who tries to create the future with their prediction, instead of predicting some future that is destined to happen. Now, one of the common traits of literary oracles is that they are extremely wise and clever, such that truly distinguishing whether they can actually see the future or merely guide it meticulously is extremely difficult. They also tend to have unclear motivations, which also clouds the issue. This is what makes it interesting.

    Gates' motivations are patently clear: Guide the direction of the industry in a way favorable to Microsoft. He also isn't supremely wise or clever. Though in the comparison I'm making he doesn't fit precisely because he's also the executor of whatever real path his company takes into the future. Somewhat like if it was Macbeth who predicted that he was to be king, hoping that saying so will help cause it to become true. Strangely that doesn't work as well.

  • by jan de bont ( 702726 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:36AM (#19208497)
    Given that OS2 and Windows NT were the same product before the IBM/Microsoft "divorce", given that after the divorce, Microsoft shipped NT 3.5.1 with a Bootloader that still said "OS2" (hexdump the boot sector on an NT 3.5.1 drive, if you still have a copy - You'll see it). Given that OS2 evolved directly into Win NT and therefore has a heritage that reaches all the way into Longhorn... He was right!

    The fact that a reporter missed this bit of history is typical. No sense of history or heritage.

    Don't confuse the brand, owned by IBM, with the code, originated with Microsoft, that became Windows server.

  • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:40AM (#19208531) Homepage
    As a CEO of a major software company, part of his job was to make comments in public that would try to influence the industry to move in the direction that would align with what his own company was doing (or at least attempting) already.

    Not to mention the infamous "deny-everything-until-we're-ready-to-launch" tactic. This comes both in the "dazzle the market" and "scramble to catch up" variety. Maybe there was some visionary insight in the boardroom or strategy sessions, but you didn't hear about it until they were ready to make money off it. CEO public statements are always about pushing you somewhere they need you to go or holding you back where they don't want you to go, also known as FUD.

    Consider it a lot like the people playing the stock market. Some people want to talk the market up, some want to talk it down, some want to talking you into trading (brokers), others would rather scare you away (real estate) all depending on their position. None of them are into charity and free stock advice. Neither is the CEO of a public company out to give you free business predictions.
  • Regarding OS/2 (Score:2, Insightful)

    by minus_273 ( 174041 ) <{aaaaa} {at} {SPAM.yahoo.com}> on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:42AM (#19208551) Journal
    "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time."

    If you are laughing at that, you need to brush up on your operating systems. It is one thing to laugh at something because the other guy is wrong. It is another thing to laugh at someone because YOU don't know what you are talking about and think he is wrong.

    NT4, win2000, XP, win2003 and vista are descendants of OS/2. The win 9x line is dead and all we have are the bastard sons of OS/2. I would say that win2000 and XP were pretty significant operating systems for good or for bad.

    Dont laugh Gates was right.

  • by goombah99 ( 560566 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:43AM (#19208567)
    "Pioneers get the Arrows, settlers get the land". Gates has always been a settler. They take proven technologies and ideas, copy cat them, and then try to inflate them to one way standards (embrace and extend). Settlers are useful. Microsoft created the low end PC vendor market by taming all sorts of diverse bios, video cards, disks and peripherals.

    Gates would not look like such a stogy inept prognosticator if it were not for a few brighter lights and pioneers like Jobs and the Google boys. Even Michael Dell gets some credit for being a sort of henry ford at one time but that was sort of a one time flash.

    Sure you can say Jobs did not invent Postscript or the WIMP interface or word processing in full-time graphic or music players or any number of things. But he was such an early and wholehearted adopter of nascent technologies that he is a pioneer. Pioneers did not invent the conastoga wagon or canoes they set forth in but they used them to blaze trails and set up the future.
  • Re:OS/2 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SpinyNorman ( 33776 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @10:46AM (#19208597)
    In fact he really was correct since Windows NT was originally known (during development) as NT OS/2 or simply OS/2 3.0, even though it was a different code base. It'd really be quibbling not to give Gates this one. Windows NT really has as much, or more, conceptually in common with OS/2 as it does with Windows 1.x - 3.x.
  • by Gonarat ( 177568 ) * on Monday May 21, 2007 @11:05AM (#19208825)

    OS/2 was originally designed to be the successor to DOS back when Microsoft and IBM were working together. Microsoft and IBM then had a falling out and both companies went their own ways. IBM owned OS/2, so Microsoft pushed out Windows 3.0, which was not a DOS replacement, but a windowing system that ran on top of DOS 6.

    Microsoft had to go back and develop Windows NT to replace DOS, and DOS did not actually go away until Windows XP ended the Windows 9x/ME line which were technically running on top of DOS.

    IBM continued to develop OS/2 (remember OS/2 Warp), but while IBM may have owned the mainframe world, Microsoft owned the PC desktop. Windows won, and OS/2 was eventually retired.

  • Missed Queues (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @11:09AM (#19208875) Journal
    "When wallet PCs have become ubiquitous, we can eliminate the bottlenecks that plague airport terminals, theaters and other places where people queue up to show their identification or a ticket."

    He really missed this prediction in multiple ways.

    For ticketing, the internet allows people to pre-purchase tickets for just about anything, allowing a very quick scan of a printed-at-home ticket for entrance.

    For identification, RFID is revolutionizing that arena, and it does not require an actual computing device ("wallet PC") on the end user.

    These "wallet PCs" turned out to be PDAs, and although latecomer Microsoft currently dominates this area with their mobile OS, the real revolutionary and cutting edge advances were made by other companies, like Palm.

    The queues we see today are not because of the reasons he suggests, but due to the security required to prevent mass murder.

    The ironic thing with his predictions is that his company actually has the resources to make a lot of them come true. I just wonder why other companies are the ones bringing us the gee-whiz technology and software. Internet search, iPhone's slick touch-based PDA interface, input devices like the Wii's. These are all arenas Microsoft compete in directly, yet others take the lead. Why can't MS make these kinds of things happen?

    Dan East
  • by Russ Nelson ( 33911 ) <slashdot@russnelson.com> on Monday May 21, 2007 @11:18AM (#19208971) Homepage

    Microsoft's tagline was "a PC on every desktop and in every home."

    That's a goal, not a prediction. A prediction requires that you have no ability to affect the outcome.
  • by Daniel Dvorkin ( 106857 ) * on Monday May 21, 2007 @11:47AM (#19209341) Homepage Journal
    Sure you can say Jobs did not invent Postscript or the WIMP interface or word processing in full-time graphic or music players or any number of things. But he was such an early and wholehearted adopter of nascent technologies that he is a pioneer. Pioneers did not invent the conastoga wagon or canoes they set forth in but they used them to blaze trails and set up the future.

    You know, I really like that analogy, and I'll extend it one step further: the people who actually invented those things were explorers, and some explorers come back rich and covered in glory, but most die miserable deaths a long way from home. The pioneers are a bridge between exploration and real settlement.
  • by QuietLagoon ( 813062 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @11:58AM (#19209453)
    The quotes from the "Internet Tidal Wave" memo should be counted as misses. Gates, and Microsoft, were caught unaware of the impending power of the Internet. Only belately (as the article states) did Gates realize this and write the memo.

    If Gates were really a great seer, he would have written the Internet Tidal Wave memo in 1990, not after the wave rolled onto the beach in 1996.

    I am wondering why all this effort over the past year to pump up Gates' reputation? Has his illegal activities so ruined his reputation that there is an active effort in place to clean Gates' reputation for the history books?

  • by TravisO ( 979545 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @12:09PM (#19209593) Homepage
    And I'd like to add I don't consider his prediction about OS/2 to be as incorrect as the article points it to be. I'd say in a way he was 100% correct, as long as you're willing to accept the fact that Microsoft eventually decided to "take it's ball and go home" and use it's knowledge of OS/2's creation and rewrite Windows. The future market was there, Microsoft just shifted it's efforts from IBM's OS/2 to their own OS/2ish OS, you may now call it NT. Ok I know NT isn't OS/2, but you can't deny how the events took place and that in a way, his prediction held some of it's weight.
  • by orclevegam ( 940336 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @12:17PM (#19209671) Journal

    You want a seer? Try Jules Verne. Now that guy was pretty damn amazing.
    Also Robert A. Heinlein. I still can't believe how accurate some of his stuff was considering a lot of it was written around the 1950s and 60s.
  • "seer" ? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by l3v1 ( 787564 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @12:43PM (#19209921)
    He's not a seer in any way, he's more an influencer, i.e. when people like him talk about the "future" of computing, they really mean what they would like to see happen, not what they "know" what will happen. And so many people just hang on these people's every word and believe what they say that when they hear these "fortune telling" sessions they start working towards achieving that "future" to not be lost in the big march led by these people, so eventually these "visions" become reality to an extent. And tada, then you can write articles about how "seers" these people were in the first place :)
     
  • by noidentity ( 188756 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @12:50PM (#19209989)
    Solved? When I look into my gmail's spam folder, it gets tons of SPAM every day. Sure, I don't see it, but it's still costing Google in bandwidth. It'll be solved when it's not taking up any bandwidth and CPU time on any servers.
  • by jank1887 ( 815982 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @01:21PM (#19210365)
    Ummm... but that was His point. The problem isn't solved. It's hidden. "I don't care where the garbage goes as long as it's not in my back yard..."

    You still pay for it one way or the other. If it still costs you, it hasn't been solved.

  • by Torvaun ( 1040898 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @01:38PM (#19210595)
    That's akin to Bill Gates saying that poverty has been solved because he has plenty of money. It hasn't been solved, it's just not a problem for you.
  • by babyrat ( 314371 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @01:41PM (#19210639)
    Use Gmail if you don't want to set up your own filtering system.

    That's funny, I use gmail and my spam directory fills up with junk emails every day. Once in a while a legitimate message ends up there as well. This at best is a workaround, not a solution.
  • by noidentity ( 188756 ) on Monday May 21, 2007 @01:54PM (#19210863)
    You might not see SPAM in your inbox, but it's definitely included in what you pay your ISP (unless they don't do e-mail at all). There's not a specific "SPAM costs" item, but it's in there.

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